Welcome And Introducing Steve

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Gosh, my name is A Wall, and uh I'm a singer-songwriter from Baltimore, Maryland, East Coast, okay? The EC. And um, gosh, I uh I have the Respecting Perspectives podcast here. If this is your first time listening, thank you for joining us. You know, hit all the buttons that are around us right now, and just you know, most of all, just enjoy the conversation, you know, open up to what you know to what everyone has to say. And uh, you know, you don't have to agree with what we say, but you do have to respect the fact that we have this perspective. So I have my dude, I got the I got the spiel down, dude. I'm telling you, I got Steve, my dog here. Come here, dude. Steve has been killing it for years upon years upon years and has taught me a lot about production. Um, he is a uh he's when it comes to musicality and instrumentation, um, he is one of a kind and he's one of those guys who just puts the work in and he notices that, or I I, you know, hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but he basically experiments and you know until he finds something that he and he's just trying and trying and trying and and really perfecting a craft, dude. I see you like perfecting what you're doing, dude. And it's it's powerful, dude. And it it's crazy because it just seems to happen in the background of what you're doing, because you're doing a bunch of other stuff, you're joggling a lot of heavy things, and you know, you're you're you're doing good with it. So um you should be proud of yourself, and uh, I'm proud to call you a friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Well, thank you for the kind words and um, you know, kind of uh the way you look at the hustle. Um it is definitely juggling a lot. It is like science experiments, messing around with the right snare, the right kick, the right melody, you know, the right speed, uh-huh, the right key, you know. Um, what flavors to add, which to take away. And uh yeah, it is a lot like that.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Yeah. A scientist, right? Um, I do remember like when I opened up FL Studio for the first time, and that like breakdown of of you know the 16 of the drum pattern really was like I was like, wow, like

Early Influences And Beat Roots

SPEAKER_03 2:47

this is a whole new uh flavor that I had never uh seen or understood before. And once I was able to, you know, like band, like like 3-6 mafia and guys like that, just helped me kind of understand like rep repetition. Um, who were some of the guys that um you know helped you kind of inspire, you know, what where you're at right now?

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Oh, and beat making.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

Yeah, I mean beat making or like um you know, you know, music in general.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Early inspirations, that's uh you know, uh Eminem for sure. Uh The Prodigy, um, Fat Boy Slim, Electronic, more techno kind of stuff. Okay. Blink 182, Rage Against the Machine, Beastie Boys are the older influences in in my music. Um I would say in when it comes to beat making, more towards Murder Beats, okay, Alchemist, um, and trying to mix that with like a Swiss beats pop sound to get um you know the the right mix of the experimental with what's actually gonna get played. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Um yeah, you definitely have a unique sound and you let's see here, you use a lot of different instruments, and um I think you should pride

Where To Find And Buy Beats

SPEAKER_03 4:11

yourself in in the fact that you don't, you know, you don't you don't you're not set to one specific uh type of music. You do step you know out of the bounds every you know every time and uh it's cool to see that and hear that. Um tell people if they want to find your beat stars or you know they want to listen or they want to purchase some beats, where would they go?

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Well, that would be beat stars if you want to you know get a license, uh the unlimited, and there's also the the opportunity to get exclusives. And what do they search? Uh anomalies. A-N-O-M-A-L-E-E-Z. A N O M A L E E Z. That's right. And uh yes, so BeatStars, you can get the licenses, but it's also available uh for streaming. Uh Spotify, Apple Music, title, you know, anything where you can actually get music, Amazon um as well. And um looking into maybe bringing back ringtones too.

SPEAKER_03 5:08

Got you. Oh, ringtones. Okay, wait a second. Tell me about what was your first ringtone? What was the first ringtone you ever had?

SPEAKER_01 5:14

The first ringtone that I ever bought, uh, I think it was a 50 cent Wangsta.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

Okay, I can hear it now. The it's just wait a second. Is that what that is?

SPEAKER_01 5:32

You ain't got nothing.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

Oh shoot, okay. No, no, it's not time. Not time. That is so funny though. The Wangster, yeah. I remember, dude, there were just some that just like it's the beat, man.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

It's not so much the code.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

How much do you think they made off each one of those?

SPEAKER_01 5:48

The artist or the labels? Well, either I mean the artist probably had a pretty small percentage at that point. Yeah. Because it was a newer type of thing.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Yeah, but he owned labels. He owned the labels, right? Didn't he? Or no, he was under, he's under uh he was on Interscope. Yeah, Interscope. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Um, I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I know.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Yeah, I heard you had the inside scoop on 50 Cent. I think that's why you see, listen, the reason

From Paperboy Rapper To Producer

SPEAKER_03 6:14

why Steve is here because he has the inside scoop on 50 Cent, okay? Um we just no, I'm just messing with you. Um, all right, so listen, let's talk a little bit about the OG Um Steve. Like when I met Steve, he um he was a rapper, and that was like his thing, and he was a he was a dope rapper too. Um, but there was something that happened, dude. I'm telling you, like you inspired the heck out of me as a uh you know, when I was younger for sure, 100%. You did. And uh tell him what you went by, and if there's anything, I mean what did you learn in that process?

SPEAKER_01 6:51

The persona that I had created when I was rapping and writing was Paperboy, based off of the Nintendo game. Um the idea behind it was delivering um good performances and trying to be funny with it, and that's why it was it was never really serious, it was more joke trying to make people laugh lines than anything. Then um I heard it. It's actually kind of funny and ironic that the song is not available for streaming. Um, Kendrick Lamar has a verse on Big Sean's control. Yo yeah, do you remember when that you can search it? Um I think you can listen on YouTube right now.

SPEAKER_03 7:37

But it's not available on stream.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Like if you ask Siri or Alexa to play Big Sean's control, it's not available on stream. I don't know the reason. Maybe it's like they couldn't clear the samples or they just didn't want the verse to um you know cause too much of a problem. Um but I listened to that and it was it was uh like tectonic plate shifted underneath me. Um it was like move me out of the rapping lane into the production. Um gotcha. I guess it was like a reality check. Um sometimes you need that, sometimes you need that, right? You you see Michael Jordan play basketball, and it's like that's the motivation to try to, you know, to achieve the same goals. For sure. Um you know, but there comes a time where it's like, okay, maybe I'm not a shooting guard, maybe um, you know, I can be a point guard, something so play for the team, but in a different role. Right. Um pivot. Maybe not the frontman, the sixth man that's behind the scenes, um, making contributions in a different way. And I felt like I could have a bigger impact not on stage.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

Um so in the background, kind of, you know, doing your own. And I feel like you can kind of move with that at a different time, at a different, you know, um time as well, you know, as far as like being able to, you know, perfect it in the background and be able to like turn it into something, I think is pretty cool. Um yeah, let's see here. Um, I want you to talk a little bit about, you know, you were you just got into Paperboy, a little bit of the

Dream Vision Behind Building Pyramids

SPEAKER_03 9:24

OG style. Um, you know, give us a little bit more of the uh the new face of anomalies and um you know, give us the the meaning behind pyramids and um what that means to you and how it came came to be.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Yeah, so the idea behind anomalies, the slogan Together We Can Build Pyramids came from uh a dream. Oh shoot. And nice. Uh it's funny, I've heard a people say there's similar concepts to this. Um, but in this dream, there's large colosseum full of people humming in the same frequency and in the middle of the coliseum, draw giant boulders, huge things, and they're just getting pushed, like sliding across the earth like butter. Um and it I snapped awake, and it's like, well shoot. Could there be any you know uh truth to that? Maybe we are more powerful when we work together than you you could ever fathom. Yeah, for sure. Um I dig that 100%. So, how can I take that idea and use it for good? Would be you know, together we can build pyramids. We work better together. That's why we're divided by you know, you name it, out there nowadays, because the people that are counting all the money know how strong we are when we work together. Nice. So the pyramids are collaborations. Pyramids volume one is out right now. It's the first collaborations that I did with a bunch of different producers from all over the world. Um shout out some of the producers. Well, Gummy Beats. You had Uniwa, um TDK from down in Florida. Down there from the uh there's a guy from Peru. He the Rubs. Um what is it what's it? What is it? The Rubs. The Rubs R-U-B-B-S.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

Oh, there you go, the Rubs, baby. Shouts out.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Yeah, and that was a lot of fun making that project. Um, the idea behind it is like now you have music volume one, volume two, volume three, volume four. In the future, I want to have pyramids, volume one, volume two, volume three, volume four. Okay, to showcase the collaborations. Yeah, because those are always gonna be my strongest pieces. Two minds better than one, three better than two. I like that. So um, but yeah, that's the idea behind the pyramids. And I just like I'm excited for the next installment of this.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

Yeah, me too, man. Listen, you've always been an inspiring person, you've always given me uh hope for the world, and you're constantly um evolving. And um it's you know, it's it's it's cool to see because like it helps me figure out how to be me. Like it helps me to figure out like my flow because I can tell like there's times where you're going through life and you're just you

Balance Through Play And Creativity

SPEAKER_03 12:26

know you're really you're you're floating in a in a in a way that like you're like you know you're you're moving to different places that that you know it like I can tell, I can see it, you know, and you're just like you're balancing things very well. So um do you have any advice for people um on how to you know keep things balanced in your life?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

So one thing I picked up in in college was the psychology of play and how important it is to actually give your mind play. Oh shoot. Um shoot. You know, whether it's you know video games or card games with board games, whatever it is, art you're actually yes, creation. Um you're giving your because your mind needs that break from focusing on distressful things that you have to do to pay your bills. You have to pay your bills, you have to.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

It's just the way you know what I mean. That's what they dude.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

I mean bills have I mean you can try to not pay your bills, but um I know a few people who've done that, dude.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Who they they've I think they've tried it.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Uh yeah, that would be something that I'm gonna, you know, have to tell my my young self. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Oh nice, yeah. You well, you you know what? You might get an opportunity with that at some point. Um, so remember, you know, tuck that in the uh in the back uh you know for for that stored for a later time for sure. Um let's see here. You were talking about like how music was a science. Um dig into that a little bit more. Like what has um helped you shape your opinion of like music and like art itself, like as a science?

SPEAKER_01 14:07

Yeah, so that's something else that blew my mind in in in school. Um I've always looked at music as just music and arts. Like that's just it was like one and one and the same. Um but when uh I was taking classes in production and I found out that the bachelor degree that I was in was a science, I was asking questions like am I did something go wrong? Like I am I did they screw something up and they're like, no, this is actually this is actually a science degree. Bachelors of science. You are you know in it's not the same, you know, it's not the same as a doctor, you know. Um but yeah, in the way that you're adding different elements together to create something, it it is in a way, um a science of sound, I think.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Oh damn, wait, okay, take a second. Science of sound. Oh, that's just like dude, you should do like a whole class on that. Like I'm telling you, it's it's it's it's turning some gears.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Well, so think about it. The recording part is the art. This is what they they like, you're you're the artist. Right, and then the production behind what you're you're speaking on is there's a science to how loud the bass is, to what volume the snare's at, to how much of what certain you know key signature is used before the vocals come in. Yeah. Well the vocals blend with that key signature. Um the alchemy behind everything. And then there's layers to the alchemy, the human alchemy. Who's in the room writing the words, thinking about what bass drum to use, what you know, uh there's so many collective parts to it, right?

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Like, and not even parts that are connected to you. Like, don't be selfish about this. You know what I mean? Think about all the other things that are happening out there that had to happen before you could even be here, before you could even get here. Like all the things that were put into place before we even got here, dude. And you were talking about the whole building pyramids thing. I mean, like, you know, I think what it showed was the fact that we could wonder about so many people coming together and being able to to build this this uh monumental thing that is like is not techno like as far as we know, like you know, it doesn't express a sort of technology that we would consider um uh let's see or higher. It would the technology wouldn't be higher, but the like understanding of like the the what it is and the and the and the uh the thought behind it, I'm sure we could we could get behind. Um but yeah, it's it's it's wild. It gives us like it it helps us open up ways of thinking that maybe we didn't, you know, have in the in the in the first in the first place, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's kind of crazy. Um yeah, dude. I mean, listen, dude.

Quitting Drinking And Rebuilding Life

SPEAKER_03 17:14

Um I I I I got a few things I want to speak with you about. Um let's take a quick uh quick five. Sure. Yeah? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

He's giving you a thumbs up.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Can you see me? Oh, good, okay. All right. You know, you know how my chin is. Sometimes I like when my chin is, you know, I got the booty chin thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

That's why I got a beer. I got a big one.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

The booty chin? Yeah, you know. Wait, wait. Uh there it's the You have one, dude. I do?

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Dude, you got a donk, you got a donk on your chin.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

I've never been told that before.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Dude. Okay, wait a second. Can we start this off with saying that Steve has a donk on his chin? He's got a booty chin, just just to let everybody know. You say it, dude. Dude. Yep. Yep. Listen, just you'll get a so you'll get a you'll get a snapshot of it, and you can't, you know, you won't be able to race it.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

I've gotten Michael Sarah my home.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Michael Sarah for sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

I've never gotten a booty chin before, but I guess I gotta accept it.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

Okay, right. And then who else? Okay, listen, we gotta say, you said you look like Michael Cena, and I uh Michael Cena. Let's mention Justin Tippett looks like Riff Raff.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

I will agree with it 100%. Yes, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:31

Let's drink tears to that. When was the last time you saw Tippett? Oh, we're not even talking about that right now. That's way too much.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

When it's been it's been a minute. Um because I saw Riff Raff on Mad Decent Boat Party. Oh, did you? That was the year that I quit drinking.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Oh yeah. When was that? What year was that?

SPEAKER_01 18:58

That was 2013.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

Damn, dude.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Long time.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

You should be super proud of yourself, dude.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

I owe it to God, the grace of God.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

Oh. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

AA helped me through that big time. Um man. Uh yeah. One day I woke up with like burning bridges all around me. And I'm just like, I don't want to look at myself in the mirror anymore like this. I gotta start rebuilding. How do I start rebuilding? And it's it was like you can't run anymore. I had warrants for it was a violation of probation for something stupid. It was like I didn't have insurance on a car, didn't realize how important that was, young and dumb. Not going to uh the trial for that, you get a violation of probation and it's like immediate jail time. Gotcha. And I had a warrant for that. Um yeah. That was on top of the other nonsense and you know, chaos that I was creating. But yeah, woke up, was just like I'm done. Then turned myself in on the warrants, went into a halfway house, got a sponsor, went to meetings. He did the things, dude. Um it sucked. It sucked. Not it gave up a lot of freedoms. There's a lot of sacrifices that needed to be made to get here. Um, but it was worth it. There you go. Um I own a record label now. Um I work in the mortgage industry.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Um what's the record label name?

SPEAKER_01 20:44

It's anomalies L L City. Hey, get it. Um licensed in 39 states as a uh mortgage loan originator, which I never thought would be possible. Dope. Um so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Damn, dude. Yeah, man. You you're accomplishing a lot, dude, and uh it's it's cool to see. Um yeah, you know, there's there's so much in our past that we try and um, you know, we try and cover up, you know, we try and hide. But if I feel like if it like makes you like a better person and and makes you like that version of yourself that like you always thought that you were supposed to uh have, you know, those pieces start to fall in line.

Breakups Godzilla And Asking For Help

SPEAKER_03 21:26

And you built those pieces, you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of homies that go around, you know, talking one thing and doing another, like you, you know, you you you walk the walk, you know, and and not a lot of people uh can say that, you know what I mean? Um I I I there was a point that that we talked about on the conversations uh on the phone where you know you were talking about how breakups, you know, really are uh like a usual mm uh a monumental shift in, you know, how you carry yourself after that. Tell people a little bit, you know, if you're to try and like tell people the Youthful version of you.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

My analogy for the breakups in my life anyway are like nukes that awake Godzilla. Oh shit. For me, it's always like it could be I'm either the one being broken up with or I'm doing the the breaking up. Um I have something to prove either to myself or that person.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Yeah. Um that's like all relationships too, right? Like I feel like it's a lot of not even like intimate relationships.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

But that shift of, you know, the separation, it it's like a bomb that goes off, but then afterwards the life kind of feels desolate. You're alone in a wasteland. It's like, is this ever gonna are you change you ever gonna come back to normal and be able to breathe again like fresh air? Uh once the dust settle, you gotta let the dust settle. The fallout fades away, and then Godzilla rises and you know takes control of the city again or whatever. Oh shit. Okay. Have you seen Godzilla? Have you ever seen Godzilla? The real which one?

SPEAKER_03 23:14

Because there's a like actual Godzilla.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

The original Godzilla from like you know, you're talking about the real life Godzilla. You're talking about like a lizard, giant lizard. Yeah. No. Yeah. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Talking about like the you know No, how did they come up with that idea though? What is that? What would Godzilla spoke? What was his role in like the movie?

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Well, they're the the idea behind it is they have a nuke that goes off and it wakes up. Oh, it wakes them up. Yeah. Like we're the nukes that go off are waking up the underground sea creatures and they're pissed off that we were destroying.

SPEAKER_03 23:53

I don't remember the storyline. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

To my knowledge, that was the idea behind it. It was like uh it was like anti nuke explosion propaganda. Like, don't just don't blow up the bombs, or you're gonna wake up you're gonna wake up Godzilla, dude. That's gonna be a problem. Right, that's gonna be a problem. Yeah, so use other methods of you know mediation. Don't drop the bombs or the monsters are gonna start.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Climbing out of the yeah. I got some monster. I mean, we all got some monsters, right? Um, I mean, I guess we could tie that into um like mental health, right? Like, you know, we all got some demons, right? We're all we all we're all traveling on demon time in some way. You know what I mean? Like, it's like sometime I'm having the demon time lane, and then I'm in like back in the regular lane, and then I'm like demon time lane, and then I'm like, you know, you know what I'm talking about, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Well, mental health, in my opinion, biggest problem in the country. Maybe, maybe the world, but um I think that whenever you are feeling like you need help, you should probably ask for it. Um, I know it might be easier said than done, right? But something to think about is when you're asking for help, you're giving somebody the opportunity to be useful. When you're not asking for help, you're taking that opportunity away. And there are people out there that want to help you, believe it or not. That's a good point. I like that. So um don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. It's a fear, it could be a fear thing. Yeah. Anxiety, whatever. Don't be scared. Do not be afraid to ask for help. Um find somebody that you feel safe to, you know, to talk to. Um, but don't do nothing. Do something.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

We never scared. We never scared.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

No, that's how you have to feel though. You have to have like that that uh that um you have to have that voice in the back of your what was his name? Who he said he sang that back in the day? We never scared. Bonecrusher. Oh. You gotta have that in the back of your mind. Right, dude, you have to have just like that voice.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

That was in Madden something. Dude. I remember that from Madden doing the fantasy drafts. And he had the bangers in the back.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Bangers, dude. Bonecrusher drops some bangers in the city. One of these days. Damn, dude.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Um of these days, AWOL. One of these days.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Let's do it, dude. I'm down, dude. We're putting it on the uh put it on the put it on the bingo

Music Libraries Industry Beef And Bad Collabs

SPEAKER_03 26:40

card.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Vision board. Oh, damn. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 26:42

Vision board. I just fucked you. No, you're good. It's look, you're you're fine, dude. You're fine. You're Gucci dog. Um, I got a few, he I got a few questions for you. Um let's see here. If you had, and this this question was sent in by who sent this? Oh, it's our next guest, actually. D Lord Inc. sent this question in, actually. Um, what he asked was if you had unlimited time and resources, what would you build?

SPEAKER_01 27:09

This is easy. It would be pyramid creation stations all over the world where underground, subterranean music bunkers where you can go kind of like a library where you go, you get your music creation card. You, you know, um, and you can go in and create, you schedule your time for session, recording, production, whatever. Unlimited instruments, unlimited equipment, whatever people that want to produce are there. It's like a guitar center, except it's like free, you know, produced by somebody that has unlimited resources, and you know, I feel like that's something that would benefit humanity tremendously. Okay. A library where you could go make music with other people that want to create. You don't have to worry about a budget, you don't have to worry about, you know, oh crap, the guitar broke. They just, you know, fly in another one, or yeah, they have one, pull it out of the storage. Yeah, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Um a music library. Right? That's what you're saying. Right basically, you know. Yo, that is so crazy. Um, I love the idea. I think we should listen. Let's call some venture capitalists and we'll get from New Hampshire and let's get them on the line. Okay. Yeah. Phone them all. Phone them all. Phone them for us. Get them, get them all. Um, let's see here. Um, all right, here's another one. Um, what do you think is like what's the most messed up thing about the music industry um right now? And this song was um, who was this? This song was sent in by um it was oh Dart Nasty, Mitch Kyle. Got it.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Yeah, shout out, Mitch. Shout out so um I think the there's like a misunderstanding that beef pace. Really, I think collaboration is gonna scale much further and faster and with uh much more intensity than uh beef would. The question that I would ask is how much money do you think a Kendrick Lamar and Drake collaboration would make right now? How much how many people do you think would be listening to those words? Um, how much money would be made off of something like that right now? Um yeah. So I think there's more to collaboration than beef. And and maybe you can make money, but it's not as long-lasting. Yeah, it's not going to build a pyramid. You're not going to build something level like like the first surface level, something that's not gonna last. It's not going to withstand the test of time.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Um or or you know, maybe it will, but it just won't burn as bright. Yeah, it's not as influential. Um as it could be or should be. It's so weird to think about it because you don't see positive news. Right. It's right all negative, divisive, because the positivity doesn't generate the engagement. So they don't want to talk about bringing lifting people up and the positive, they want to talk about the negatives to divide, to create more you know, clicks and piss people off to get the the response that no, that's not true, or I'm gonna dick up. Like dickhead, man.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

It's uh it's I've said it a few times, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

It happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

It gets you fired. Sometimes you get all fired up, right? You're trying to reply, you like reply.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Yes. So the mental game. Yeah, that's something else that's important too. For sure. You know, the money game is big. You want to win the money game, but the mental game is sometimes even I'm always thinking about that one. More important for sure.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

You're sure you're 100%, man. Um, let's see here. What would a um oh this question was sent in by our producer, Matthew Groove here? Um, what do you think a bad collab looks like?

SPEAKER_01 31:29

Damn, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

And like who, yeah, what would comprise that?

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Well, that goes down to human alchemy, you know? Um that's I don't know, case by case, really. It comes down to feeling. Your gut's gonna tell you, you know, this just isn't right. Right. You know? Um Are you willing to sacrifice that for money? Or are you going to, you know, make the change? Because I think what's gonna come out of you being more comfortable with the collaboration is a better product than something that you're forcing your way through just to get through. For sure. Um so you know, it could be a complete waste of time. You know, that it's simple as that. Like a bad collaboration is you just you just wasted a bunch of time.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

Wasted the whole damn weekend trying to make a damn song. Why do why the fuck did we just do this? Right am I? I mean, it happens, you know. It's not always gonna be the most productive thing. You're not always gonna make the best track that you've ever made, you know.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

But that doesn't mean that it's a you know, that time, you know, that it might be gone, but that there's a lesson there somewhere. For sure. You know, so the value might have to be dug at to be found a little harder, but it's there. Yeah. Um, but yeah, they're not all collaboration is good.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

You know what though? Let me tell you, this one is a fire. Absolutely. Just so you know. Let me adjust this uh microphone here.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

If I if I broke this again, I'm no, I think yours is staying holding.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

Yours is held up, dude. Yours is where it's supposed to be. We need to work on this because this thing, I you know, we gotta get it, we gotta get one where it's it's you know, we don't have to do this. Here comes the all right, I got it.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

Alright. I think we're good to go. We're gonna do the last two segments. Um, and then uh your you know, your voice, your your last uh punch that you want to give the people, you know, some

Calling Younger Self With Hard Rules

SPEAKER_03 33:46

inspiration. Sure. Inspire these mofos. Okay, like Indiana Jones did back in the day. Okay, all right. Okay, wait, what's that noise? Do you hear this? Do you hear that? Oh, damn, son. Okay, who is this? Who is calling me on my cell phone right now? On my cellular. Oh, this is OG Steve. Oh, this is OG Anomalies. This is OG Stevie. Stevie! Young Stevie. All right, wait, he my man, listen, I'm with the real version of you. The there's there's no time continuum stuff going on right now. This is real, okay? You're about to have a conversation with your yourself, okay? And he's got some stuff he wants to tell you.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

I can't believe I'm getting this opportunity. What's up, man? Oh, dude. Uh number one. The the drum beat in your head. It's totally fine. You might be a little crazy, but it's okay. It is okay. Um don't run from it. And uh enjoy the ride, man. Um It's uh It's it's something where you're gonna have to You have to learn by the experiences. Um I don't wanna give too much away like spoilers. Um if you could you You gotta stay away from alcohol. Step one. Step two, you gotta pay your bills. Um and you should be alright after that. But um yeah. Keep drumming. And that's all I gotta say, man. Tell him you love him. I love you, big dog.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Yo, Mr. Drummonds, alright. It was nice speaking with you, and uh, you end up being a pretty cool

Rapid Fire And Final Message

SPEAKER_03 36:14

human being, and you make them make a bunch of money and stuff too, so you're doing pretty good, dude. Alright, good stuff. Peace. Don't okay. One last thing here, okay. I got a few rapid fire questions for you, okay. Um, and you're just gonna go right off the cuff, okay? You need to be quick with this, all right? Pretend we're making a beat, okay? And like we we had the um we had the tempo at like 90. All right, right now, we're tempoing at 160, okay? Okay, just so you know. All right, put 20 seconds on the clock. All right, it's up. Okay, what's one thing you can't live without? Air. Air. Oh my god. Any superpower, what would it be? Flying. Fly, dude. Everybody's flying there, everybody's in the air right now. Okay, daytime or nighttime? Night. What favorite kind of flower? Weed? There you go. Most unique instrument.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

Unique?

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Yeah, unique piano. Oh, there you go. If you had to listen to one song for the rest of your life, what would it be? Tell him, tell them, dude, tell him. Large number seven, no pickles. To get him, dog. Okay, planes, trains, or automobiles? Planes. New testament or old testament.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Old testament.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

There you go. Okay. Okay, favorite color.

unknown 37:46

Come on.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Blue. Blue. There you go. With the B L U easy. Alright, favorite curse word. That's not really a curse word, because you know moms don't like curse words. Favorite curse word. Uh-huh. Fuck. Oh, that's a real curse word. Okay. Favorite member of the Beatles. Rapid fire. You know one of the Beatles, right?

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Ringo Star.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

There you go, Ringo. Okay, got him. Alright, what's my spirit animal? Your spirit animal? Yep. You're one of the goats, dog. Oh, thank dude. Get him with a goat, dog. That's my best goat. Sorry. That's all I got right now. I mean, put some auto tune on it or something. We'll make it in a hit. Um, all right, one last one. Uh, pineapple or coconut? Pineapple. You straight to it? Just you don't even no no questions asked? Even on like a pizza? Sure. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

unknown 38:45

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 38:46

Get them with the mic every time. Alright, listen, get that mic straight because you have to tell these these fools one thing. One thing. Inspire these people with one thing. Leave them with one, you know, uh tidbit of information that will hopefully help them uh improve their lives in some way.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Well, I think everyone can contribute. There is something that you have that will, I mean, you could you don't have to be the best drummer, but I know your ass can play the tambourine. You know what I'm saying? Anybody can pick that shit up and shake it. So ha you use the energy that's in you. Um, and then you have the choice whether you want to use that for positive or negative. So if the choices are yours, how are you going to impact the world? You know? I don't you know if you're watching this, I want you to come away with the idea that together we can build pyramids. We are divided for a reason, and it's because we're unfathomably powerful when we work together. And so you have something to contribute to the world, what you're gonna do with that, you know. That's that's up to you.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

All right, that is a uh finale. Uh that was like the fireworks at the end, you know what I mean? Where it was a bunch of yeah, thank you so much for being here, Steve. Dude, honestly, you are the man. Actually, Dap. Give me a Dap Dap. Give me a Dap Dap. Yeah, okay. Thank you for being here, dude. And thank you for being honest and open and um clear-headed. You just kind of, you know, you re-roll through a conversation. Well, we we've known each other for a long time, and you have always inspired me, and music is always at the forefront for you, and you're just creating, creating, creating, and sometimes you're like doing it, you're not even looking up. Like it just happened and you're just you're just doing it, dude. And it's cool to see, and it makes me want to do it myself. And um, you know, I hope we can inspire some of y'all to, you know, just you know, just just try some new shit, dude. Like, like go out, go to that place you ain't been to in a while, or like that you've never been to, you know what I mean? Like take that trip, like do that thing, like don't just be sitting around on your ass, you know, doing nothing, dude. Get out there and respect my perspective, dog. Even I mess it up these days. All right, y'all. Thanks for joining in.