Speaker 1: 0:00

Alright, respecting perspectives. Come on now.

Speaker 2: 0:19

Thanks for being here. Oh yeah, dude, Thanks for having me. Man dude, you and I hit it off. From the very beginning I've been trying to come on here for a while.

Speaker 1: 0:27

I think we talked about this months ago, I think.

Speaker 2: 0:30

Dude, I remember the first time we met you at the Greasy.

Speaker 1: 0:33

Oh, at the Greasy Hands Pig Roast and you know you looked so good I thought what's the first thing I asked you? I was like I know you play something.

Speaker 2: 0:46

I play it myself.

Speaker 1: 0:47

I know a musician when I see one.

Speaker 2: 0:49

Right, uh-huh, uh-huh, nice dude. You know what? It was funny, because I did have the overalls on, uh-huh, so it looked like I was a part of the greasy hands.

Speaker 1: 0:58

Oh, you looked good, man, nice, appreciate it. I mean like, I mean, ever since then I was like I gotta get my style up a little bit. And I've been working on getting my style up. Dude, you are a style dude. Well, I remember like, I remember back in like, um, like like high school, like my thing was, you know, because I was waking up at 6 am every day, I was like okay, I was like I'm just gonna wear sweatpants and sweatshirt, I don't I don't give a shit, I'm just gonna.

Speaker 1: 1:21

I'm like I'm, I'm, I'm showing up to school and what I wore to bed last night. There you go right. But then once I went to college I was like all right, maybe I should wear pants, yeah pants, you know like maybe, maybe, maybe. The gray sweatpants, you know, with holes all down the legs stains yeah, like a coffee from like sixth grade I don't know if that's a good idea. So then college, I started like wearing pants and then I was like all right, maybe I should stop wearing t-shirts eventually.

Speaker 2: 1:47

So I was like all right and started wearing like button downs yeah I started appreciating looking nice as you get older, I think that's something that you start to have an appreciation for, is kind of just like, you know, you're the energy that you're bringing to the table, you know, and, uh, yeah, you know, I love it. How, like there's some people who, like I kind of know how they're going to show up for the night or for an event or whatever, and it's cool to be able to like kind of depend on that, that vibe itself. But then there's also some people who, like you, never know. You never know what you do, you know you never know, so it's like.

Speaker 2: 2:21

It's like a box of chocolates you never know what you're gonna get. Yeah, right, and it's like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get.

Speaker 1: 2:25

Yeah, right, and I love those people that will show up one day and they're looking like a little skater boy. You're like, all right, I see the vibe. And the next day they show up and they're wearing a flowy gown and you're like I can't pinpoint this person. I can't pinpoint it.

Speaker 2: 2:45

It's cool to be able to, you know, keep, keep people on their toes with, with things like that. But, man, dude, okay, so, respecting perspectives guests, we are here with the one and only mr wyatt graham, who is a world renowned bassist.

Speaker 1: 3:02

Okay, dude, dude, he's slapping this thing everywhere, okay, global, all right actually he's universal. There's other planets that know about you, dude I would say so yeah, I mean like I've been doing a little bit of my, uh, a little bit my telekinesis. You know, I'm sending some beams out out out in space. You know what I?

Speaker 2: 3:20

mean he's also a uh, a father figure. Okay, yes, he is all right, he, he's got the energy of um jim morrison, uh-huh, okay, he's bringing that. He's bringing that doors energy in. And you know what? I don't even really need to introduce him. Tell him a little about yourself for the people who don't know you out there, and, uh, just give them a little bit, get some backing oh, where do I begin?

Speaker 1: 3:44

uh, I'm just, uh, I'm just a musician, musician delinquent, who, uh, I just uh, I kind of, just, you know, go with the flow and I, I I'm always searching for, you know, better people to talk to and just better. And I'm always, I'm always trying to grow, you know, and I don't know what that looks like, you know, so I'm always taking risks of moving places. I didn't think I'd be or playing instruments. I didn't think I'd play or do things I don't think I would do. It's my first podcast.

Speaker 2: 4:14

Is it? Yeah, man Taking your cherry, you're popping my cherry, you're popping my podcast cherry. And then what Mandolin? You do a little Mandolin, mandolin.

Speaker 1: 4:27

I went from nobody thought I would go from bass to the complete opposite, smallest instrument you know. I mean, like I always took pride in my bass fingers and having these big bass fingers you do, dude, and then I went to you know right. And then I went to mandolin and it's just like looks weird man.

Speaker 2: 4:38

Oh, it's probably actually a little bit more difficult to play because.

Speaker 1: 4:42

It looks illegal, it looks. It looks like I'm taking advantage, looks like I, you know. I mean, I don't know, man, somebody needs to call child services because I am molesting that mandolin.

Speaker 2: 4:56

So he is a molester of mandolins. A molester of mandolins.

Speaker 1: 4:59

I am the aggressor to, I'm the breaker of strings. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Man well, I'm so excited to have you here and so is everybody else out here. There's like 8 billion people watching this right now. Oh yeah, I'm sure, and I'm sure you know them all by name Dude first names. Yeah yeah, and nicknames, that's just too many last names.

Speaker 1: 5:19

Do you?

Speaker 2: 5:19

have any nicknames.

Speaker 1: 5:21

Do you have any nicknames? I got a couple nicknames. I got a couple that are kind of lost in time.

Speaker 2: 5:25

Okay, hit them with some.

Speaker 1: 5:27

Back in high school, all my friends. And this is not given by me, this was given by observations. That's what a nickname is Right, right, but they all called me and I didn't like it then. But they called me the destroyer, the destroyer. Yo Okay wait yo, okay, wait, where does this come from? What did you destroy? Well, okay, so started off with.

Speaker 1: 5:50

I would just uh, I, you know, I love, I love partaking in the mary jane, I love the marijuana, you know, so like so I'd always take, I'd always love going out and getting a nice, fresh, clean glass, you know like you know, but it would always last me, probably, like like jim Moore's, like 27. It would die at 27 days in you know, I'd. I'd I'd kick it, I'd break it, I'd something would happen and I just would break every single piece that we ever got. And then it just turned into like every time I'd break, like something they'd be like oh, there he is again.

Speaker 2: 6:21

Breaking something Destroy. I feel like there should be like like some background music, every time somebody says that Like doon, doon, doon.

Speaker 1: 6:28

Yeah, like walking into, like my WWE, like to the ring, I just break everything.

Speaker 1: 6:32

I don't know my own size. I break everything. I mean, like, I love these pants. You know, I broke these pants this morning. You broke them in pants this morning. You broke them in. No, I broke them, I broke them. Alright, I don't know what happened. Actually, it reminds me I brought you something. You did, I did bring you something. Yes, oh, my goodness, yeah, I did. It's really good, Dude, so thoughtful of you. It's from my heart. Oh, thank you. It's the reason why my pants broke. Oh, it's the reason why I carry it around with me whenever I'm stressed out.

Speaker 2: 7:09

Oh my gosh, this is, this is my first gift. Yeah, on the show. Well, I love your, I love your setup here. I thought I could add, I thought I could add to it dude, this is great. You know what, gosh, I mean, you know what?

Speaker 1: 7:12

let's put it on the couch with us it's a little, it's a little side guest, it's our little buddy here, but I man, those things are like I was walking around this morning and I got caught on like uh, like a stairwell okay, and put a little little rip. You know what it adds some character, right it does kanye would take these and sell them for a thousand dollars. That would increase the value of those pants, I mean have you seen all those girls in, like you know, fed hill and they're that all take their take their jeans and put their little cuts in their jeans yeah sign me up.

Speaker 2: 7:43

You're trying to be holy. That makes them holy. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 7:47

I'm trying to be holy, yeah. Yeah, my pants are quite holy. Quite holy, quite holy yeah yeah, yeah, man.

Speaker 2: 7:52

So tell everybody your last name is Graham. Let's dig a little bit into. So, wyatt, here is part of the One Graham Band, part of the one grand band who, uh, matthew groovy, who is the uh producer of the respecting perspectives podcast, who every episode is um live switching in in his um in his uh profesh studio back there we're at the watermelon room here and, uh, the space man, I couldn't be more grateful to have tripped, you know, and fallen into into this opportunity and, uh, you know, I knew you, you had a live recording here with the band right, yeah, and groovy, you know groovy being, uh being being the drummer, you know he uh he, he's, he's been right here, you know he's spot this is take.

Speaker 2: 8:42

Take a look up, oh yeah, the camera. We got one there. Give it a second. Let him switch to it.

Speaker 1: 8:47

Oh no, you did not.

Speaker 2: 8:48

Yeah, you hit him with this, hit him with that. No way, how cool is that? Who's on the set? You got that. Okay, we got that one there. We got this one here we go See that one. Then we got our back shot there.

Speaker 1: 9:05

Man, I feel like I can't pick my nose anywhere. Man.

Speaker 2: 9:07

You can pick your nose everywhere. You can't dude. You can double pick if you want.

Speaker 1: 9:11

I'm tired of people looking at me weird for picking my nose.

Speaker 2: 9:15

Dude listen, man Go for a winner. I got a big schnoz man.

Speaker 1: 9:22

You do have a big schnoz in a good way, no. I mean, you don't got to be nice in the worst way possible I have a large nostril in the worst way possible. I'm sitting there and it is fair game. People know that if my nostril is hanging out, they're sticking their finger up there.

Speaker 2: 9:37

So if I fart, it's hitting you instantly, it's hitting me instantly, instantly, boom.

Speaker 1: 9:43

But I'm tired of people looking at me like I shouldn't be picking my nose. Everybody does it. Yeah, everybody picks their nose.

Speaker 2: 9:49

Remember when you were a kid and you just dude, you just picked, yeah, you didn't even care what you were.

Speaker 1: 9:55

My diet was a healthy mix of mac and cheese and nose candy and bugs dude.

Speaker 2: 10:00

Yeah, man, remember when your diet was just bugs, bugs, dude, bugs.

Speaker 1: 10:03

Come on, man Right, it's like parents talking about you need more green, ma. Yeah, ma, I'm getting a healthy diet of bugs. Come on, dude.

Speaker 2: 10:13

I got the bugs Go back to. Let's talk about the band a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah. And who else is part of the band?

Speaker 1: 10:22

So we got a couple members so we started off with me and my drummer, jake Kunkel Cool, so that's kind of where the name came from. It's Uncle Kunkel's One Grand Band Gotcha. It's not just a reference to drugs. Oh I know, I remember the first time I heard that I'm like, oh, I know Everyone thinks that and like I gotta tell them like no, no, no, we are, we are clean. My last name is graham, that's simply how I put. Besides, we're smoking much more than a graham right, tell them, dude.

Speaker 2: 10:52

Tell them, what about golden grams?

Speaker 1: 10:53

golden grams, oh, I love golden grams, yeah so, like, so there's a thing like I, like I don't know, you know, like I, my, my instagram handle is a white graham cracker and like. There's like for a thing. For for a period of time I thought I had to like graham crackers. Oh right, you were forced.

Speaker 2: 11:09

I hated graham crackers. Hey, yeah, I'm not even. Should we say that?

Speaker 1: 11:14

I mean now. Now I like graham crackers because I had a. I had to eat it a lot. Yeah, it was a healthy diet of mac and cheese, burgers and graham there you go and I ate a lot of graham crackers, trifecta, oha, oh yeah, oh yeah, because it's like you know, I got to preach what I'm. Yeah, I got to, you know.

Speaker 2: 11:31

Yeah, what's your favorite cereal?

Speaker 1: 11:34

Oh, fruit, fruit, Fruity Pebbles, fruity Pebbles, fruity Pebbles. Oh my gosh, there craving that. That show, we got some, we got some. Uh, we got some, uh, fruity pebbles in the back here.

Speaker 2: 11:50

I know, I know exactly what I'm hitting after this dude, we should, I should do a podcast where it's just like we just eating cereal uh-huh, uh, yeah, lots of cereal right or we'd like test, like different seals and like we kind of like, you know, we just talk about them, you know, do you?

Speaker 1: 12:03

ever? Are you ever? Are you ever mixing cereals? Oh yeah, that's when shit got real in my life. That's when things kind of turned a page in my life, right.

Speaker 2: 12:11

That's the next chapter.

Speaker 1: 12:12

It's when I realized that you don't got to monogamously eat cereal. You're right. You're so right, you're so right, you can be a polyamorous cereal eater Polyamorous cereal.

Speaker 2: 12:21

You know what I mean. Shout out to all our polyamorous cereal. You know what I mean. All them, captain Pebbles you know what I'm talking about, so is that the mix.

Speaker 1: 12:29

Oh, you can mix whatever you want, baby. So what I like doing?

Speaker 2: 12:32

is.

Speaker 1: 12:32

I like putting a nice little foundation of chocolate you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 12:36

Oh, okay, so the milk.

Speaker 1: 12:45

So maybe like some cocoa pebbles, maybe a little bit of cinnamon toast crunch oh my god I taste it now, I kind of have that dude healthy, a healthy diet of mac and cheese, boogies, graham crackers and mixed cereal. There you go. That's the four you need so far.

Speaker 2: 13:04

we might find more.

Speaker 1: 13:05

I don't know, man, that's all you need.

Speaker 2: 13:09

All right back to the band. Let's see here. Yeah, how long has the band been. And you got to mention Luke.

Speaker 1: 13:17

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, luke, I forgot about that guy.

Speaker 2: 13:21

Yeah, Luke's that guy.

Speaker 1: 13:22

You know, he's a guitar player, a mother figure, Mother figure, mother figure, got to have both sides of it. You got to know who wears the pants. You know For sure. You got to know who wears the ripped pants. Right, you had the ripped pants.

Speaker 2: 13:35

I'm sure his is a little maybe straighter, a little bit, yeah, possibly.

Speaker 1: 13:46

He takes a little more care. I see him just walking around with the. He has just iron on his back and he's also a part of and he's on tour right now with Natalie Brooke.

Speaker 2: 13:49

Natalie Brooke Shouts out to Natalie Brooke.

Speaker 1: 13:52

She has been working her butt off, oh my God, man, that group is just one of the best groups Baltimore has seen in a while. It is, it is.

Speaker 2: 14:02

And what their drummer is? Nate Shulkin, yep, nate Shulkin, nate on the drums. We can just forget about that guy.

Speaker 1: 14:09

Yeah, for now, for now, Unless he watches that. I love you, nate, we do. No man. All those guys are just like individually, such dedicated and talented musicians at the craft For sure. They're so good, and it's just that determination to want to be a better individual musician is something that we've all been really focusing on. We're trying to make sure the band all stays close and keeps the band goal in mind. But you've got to want it for yourself too.

Speaker 2: 14:51

Man, that's a great point.

Speaker 1: 14:54

You've got to have that drive, that self-determination that is going to then get reciprocated over to the group project that you're working on.

Speaker 2: 15:03

I was talking to Groovy about this a little bit earlier today.

Speaker 2: 15:07

There was a point in my musical career where I really had to sit with you know, am I going to make it a group effort or is it just going to be, you know, awol, as you know the face, and I really had to kind of sit with that for a while and you know, ultimately my decision was that you know I was going to, this was going to be a solo thing, you know, and I could. I can definitely see there being, you know, pros and cons to being a part of a group effort, pros and cons to being a part of a group effort, everybody trying to make sure everybody's on the same page. And I'm sure that's a little bit of a challenge because you're all going in different directions and life itself kind of takes you guys in different directions. But you know what? I think it's amazing to see a group of people kind of come together and really just know that, and the beautiful thing about it is the fact that music is at the heart of it.

Speaker 1: 16:13

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:13

And that's what leads you.

Speaker 1: 16:15

Oh yeah, and it's like deeper than all of our own desires is. We know that we must. The music is in charge, it's in charge. We can bring egos in, leave egos out, but none of that matters. The music, the song, is what matters. Right, it's just Good point, it's more important than anything, and that's one thing as a musician that I've been realizing is like I don't got to stand out, I don't got to be this like crazy, going all over the place like everyone listens to me, bassist, or like mandolinist. I just got to do justice to the song and that's what I've been doing and that's what I see you're doing. I mean, I see you just put out a single.

Speaker 2: 17:05

I did. You want to tell me about that a little bit more? Yeah, you know what you are too good.

Speaker 1: 17:09

I'm keeping up boy, I did my research.

Speaker 2: 17:11

He's too good to me. Yeah, so I did just release a song called that's On you, available on all streaming platforms, got visualizers for it and um, yeah, gosh why I have been really trying to release music on a bi-weekly slash, monthly basis or, yeah, basis. Um, and, and really it's kind of like I feel like one of the most important things for not even just like a musician, but like any, uh, let's see here, you know, any field is consistency, yeah you know how how important is is consistency.

Speaker 2: 17:52

You know how important do you feel consistency is to life itself?

Speaker 1: 17:56

it's everything I mean. You know, everyone talks about the micro versus macro aggressions, like research. You know, like it really is like you just gotta, you just gotta hit it every day. You know, yeah, you just gotta hit those microaggressions like as much as you can and like just know that like, if you just stick with something like over a period of time, you know something's going to come out of it.

Speaker 1: 18:17

You know, someone's going to hear it, like you know, and like there's like situations where, like you know, like I'll write a song and I write a song because I know I have to, not because, like I'm, you know, particularly feeling inspired at the moment but I just know that, like I, you know, I some someone's gotta, someone's gotta come up.

Speaker 1: 18:34

So then, like sometimes I write a song. Sometimes I'll write a song and I won't even really like it. You know, right, I'll write it and I'll finish the whole thing and then, once I listen back to the whole thing, I go you know, I don't even really like this song, yeah, but I know that, like you know, somebody might that's a good point or maybe in five years, I, I might, right. So, you know you, you gotta just, you gotta just stay consistent and do it and you know, trust that it's you and that you don't have to worry about impressing. You know, obviously you have to like it more than anyone else, of course, but it's still going to be out there, it's still going to be, uh, a part of your discography. It's still going to be a part of who you are. And if you just keep, you know and it's all about, just like, you know, is the first one going to land, yeah, which is not usually not usually no that's crazy, you know, unless you're on, like you know, tiktok doing, like you know, serial challenges.

Speaker 2: 19:26

Oh, my gosh. You know what that's so important. I think that's a great message for everybody out there. Is that like it's really not about the overnight success or that one song? You know if you're chasing?

Speaker 1: 19:39

that one overnight song or the one thing. You know it's just like you're gonna get so disappointed when it doesn. One thing you know, it's just like you're gonna get so disappointed when it doesn't work because god, it's not gonna work, yeah it's just not gonna work and it's just like I love the saying like it takes 10 years to become an overnight sensation oh wow, I love that.

Speaker 1: 19:57

You know takes 10 years to become an overnight sensation, right, because they say what it takes 10 years to, or 10 000 hours, right to master something, right, right, and you know, same with like, if you're, if you're putting out art, you know it's just like, it's nobody's gonna recognize the, the importance and and there's just a group and there's always. You know the majority of people like to hop on things because more people, you know, because other people are on.

Speaker 2: 20:22

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 20:23

So that that that could just take a while. You know, and especially you know even when, like you know, your thing is good, even when you know people need to hear this, like this is this is.

Speaker 1: 20:34

This is groundbreaking, meaningful. This is true to me. This is you know, people won't, people won't even listen to it, and then then it's easy to get down and to think like, all right, I guess I got to find something else, right? But if that's truly what you love, at some point you got to recognize, you know, consistency and microaggressions, that's, that's what's gonna, that's what's gonna, over time, shine light on on your, on your art, versus just that one thing that you think that is gonna make it. You know, because gosh, man, I'm.

Speaker 2: 21:05

I'm going through something right now, personally, and I really mean yeah yeah, let me, let me tell you about it.

Speaker 2: 21:11

So, basically, as I'm writing all this music, I do feel like there's this transformation throughout all of these tracks and, as an artist, I'm going through that in real time. So, like I said, I have about 60 tracks that are in the vault and I'm on about like 15 that I've released, and so the public you know, my listeners are at like this fit. They see where I'm at at track 15, you know. So like, but but where I'm really at is track 60. Right, yeah, right. So it's like conveying that energy of track 15. Yeah, that's been one of the biggest challenges is bottling that track 15 energy up, and then, when the release comes out, I got to open that jar up again. Oh, that stank, take a again. Oh, that stank, take a smell.

Speaker 1: 22:19

Ooh that stank, ooh that stank baby.

Speaker 2: 22:24

So we got to get that stank out there. You know we got to get it at the end with your nose being so big. Oh yeah, you really took that in.

Speaker 1: 22:29

I smelled that before you, even unscrewed it. I knew that was in your pocket. Right, I'm like a dog man. Right, like a dog, I'm a damn dog.

Speaker 2: 22:40

Dude gosh. So with that track 15, and there's part of me, though, that needs to understand that the 45 that are still in the vault in the vault, you know I have to understand that everyone is only on that track 15 and that, like, I think in my heart that all these six you're out like, oh, you've made all these tracks and you, you know, as artists, we like with numbers, these- freaking days, you know, and you're like paying attention to instagram and youtube and like.

Speaker 2: 23:17

Sometimes maybe you feel like I mean, I guess we're. It's kind of like the correlation between like money and like number. You know like social media numbers, you know like there's, you know we get greedy, oh yeah, right, and like you and like even. You know you'll hit that hundred mark and you're like man. Is this what I expected that feeling to be like? So, not really setting too many expectations with the numbers.

Speaker 1: 23:46

Yeah, and those numbers, the art you put out, it's always going to be there and you never know what it's gonna take off, right, you know. So like there could be, there could be, and also like people see your track number. You know people see track number two of yours and they think that that's like where you've been at the past and you're like no, I recorded that years ago. Yeah, it's like. So that's the whole thing with like taking 10 years is like people will see you after 10 years and think that that's like oh, this is like a new person that just came out Right.

Speaker 1: 24:22

It's like dude, I've been hitting this.

Speaker 2: 24:24

I think that's a beautiful 10 years fan kind of hops on board. You know the cons back to consistency and you know having all of your, your stuff out there in a catalog can really you know you should, we should take pride in all of those things that that really do kind of uh, make, make it a part of a greater good right, right, you know right yeah, and just like appreciating having those 10 years to, uh, to like help you figure out who, who you are, like, what your sound is.

Speaker 1: 25:06

You know, like, if people like you know, if people listen to the stuff I was putting out five years ago, they, they fucking hate it. It sounds awful. But you think that though, yeah, that's true, but like compared to like how I were to unveil myself to a new group of people now like I'm like, don't listen back to me yeah, playing bar gigs at salisbury five years ago.

Speaker 2: 25:26

Listen back, listen to it now, after five years of me working on myself you know what, though, dude, let me tell you something that's beautiful about that is the coolest part about that is that people can listen to that second song and then listen to the one that you have out now, and they can actually hear the progression, right, right, you know, and, like dude, I mean how, how cool is that? That, like we are, I, I like to treat art as a way to prove to the world that we were here.

Speaker 1: 25:59

Yeah, you know doing your thing, you know like, like it's like a footprint, it is you know great way to think of it, right, and also it's it's. What's interesting to me is that like, uh, a lot of bands I listened to like I really dig there. I, I really dig their. I prefer first albums of bands a lot of the times, me too. Like what bands can you think?

Speaker 2: 26:21

of Like Fantagram yeah, I mentioned that one to you before. Their first album was something that really inspired me to want to make music myself.

Speaker 1: 26:35

Oh yeah, you were talking about that, yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:37

And it really like that connection that was made.

Speaker 2: 26:40

Man, I love, I love being able to like revisit those things oh yeah you know, and it's like a, it's like a moment in time it is, it's like a time capsule, you know, and I'm hopping in, I'm hopping in the capsule, you know, and I'm like you know, and the coolest thing is too like it can. Sometimes it can take me somewhere I've never been, or it can take me to that exact spot that I think it's going to take me to right back in summer camp, back in back in 2005 back in summer camp. Tell me, tell me a little.

Speaker 1: 27:14

Oh man, I was a remnant oh man, I man, I was a 4-h-er, I was having to get down and dirty. I was. I was milking, I was, I was grooming, grooming. I was, I was teething, teething. I don't think it's a word, but I was. Oh man, I was. It is now. That was that was the uh. I did a 4-h summer camp for a long time, man, that was the shit I love that dude, oh man.

Speaker 1: 27:36

I would look forward to every single summer being five days away from my parents and just like out in the woods just doing man, we were doing some of the dumbest shit. We were out there, like collecting sticks, yes, like analyzing the sticks and stuff like that, but like, oh, it was so fun, man, and uh, oh, I did that so long until I was like 16 and they wouldn't let me be a camper anymore. I had to be like a counselor.

Speaker 2: 28:00

Counsel at the time I was like all right, no problem.

Speaker 1: 28:02

I got to move up in the world. I showed up. I showed up to the first day of training that we had to do. We had to do training to watch kids, which I didn't realize was so important, because these families are just dropping their kids off to these random 17 old kids. I have no idea how to take care of children. Yeah, and so first year you're you're a rookie, oh so so they wanted me to go through like 30 plus hours of training. I was like fuck this. I was like I was like 30 plus hours just to go, just to go tell kids to collect sticks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:33

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1: 28:33

Yeah, you're right, right. And then I saw it from the other perspective and I was like maybe 4-H camp was all about what I thought it would be. No, no, I love 4-H camp. Shout out to 4-H camp.

Speaker 2: 28:41

Yeah, shout out to our 4-Hers out there. Just doing their thing, just doing their teething. Doing their teething, dude, you know what, something that kind of resonated with me when you mentioned that was when I was younger, like 16, I was a lifeguard. Oh yeah, dude, who the fuck?

Speaker 1: 29:05

was letting you, letting me who was letting any 16 year old be a lifeguard? Yeah, what the hell? I know, like just the name you're. You're you're asking this this gd high school dropout 17-year-old kid to guard your kid's life, Life, no.

Speaker 2: 29:22

Thank you, Dude. And I remember, dude, there were times I had a gig that was a rooftop pool, oh yeah. And it was at the Carlisle Hotel, oh nice.

Speaker 1: 29:35

And I— I love how you say gig by the way, like you're taking gigs, yeah um, I love, I love you say gig by the way, like you're taking gigs, your manager's giving you a call. You're like, hey, uh, some kids face down and uh, and the and the upstairs pool we might get up here.

Speaker 2: 29:46

The two foot, the two foot we need. We need your help, stick and uh, your big old pool noodle.

Speaker 1: 29:54

That's like for, like very inconvenient, I feel like for, like you know, like like they're running out there with these giant red noodles and it's just like it looks like. It's like.

Speaker 2: 30:02

Leave it at home, leave your noodle dude, I left my noodle at home that day, I'll tell you, and I had my whistle and all but dude, I remember I would have. I would just like invite friends to the pool. I'd be like like yo, rooftop pool party man. It was like half of my friends and then half of the guests, but you could tell who my friends were. We're cannonballing, dude, we're going crazy, and I remember shout out, though let me tell you I did pay attention to class and training and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 30:40

And, dude, I actually did have to save a life, did you? I did, and it was the only time that I actually needed to. I had to give someone CPR, did you? I had to do it? Were you singing a song? I, what we will. We will rock you, rock you. What's the song? Isn't there a song? Oh, wouldn't it be Okay? There it is. You know what. Shout out to all our lifeguards out there just with the track in their head, guarding those kids' lives. Man and I do remember that and gosh, you know, yeah, reminiscent about that. Oh man, yeah, oh man, yeah, camp man, camp days, guys, what else do you miss from your childhood?

Speaker 1: 31:24

Well, speaking of lifeguards, I remember one time when I was a kid I was at the beach. Oh man, I was watching a bunch of like Beach Patrol, like reality TV, back when that was out, back when they were allowing the people who are supposed to guard your kids' lives to be celebrities on this. Doesn't that seem so backwards? Whenever they have cops right, they have this big camera crew with them, right, and the cop's just like. You know that cop's going to change his whole attitude.

Speaker 2: 31:55

That is not how that police officer acts with his cameras down or when they pull the guy over and he's like I've been smoking my whole day Like they're showing off. Like they're talking about everything they're doing. They're probably incriminating themselves like crazy.

Speaker 1: 32:08

Because they're like get me on that, because they're saying get me on that TV show, you know. So, back when I was at the beach, when I was probably like 10, I don't know, I remember I really wanted to be on that show. Oh, did you? I really wanted to be on one of those shows.

Speaker 2: 32:21

You're looking at the TV like I'm going to be on there.

Speaker 1: 32:23

One day I was out in the water like, oh, I can't swim, I can't swim. I definitely did not pass the swim test back when I was three, so I'm out there like somebody save me wendy pepper of corn, help me please.

Speaker 1: 32:37

All the big kids are all around me like what are you doing? What's this guy doing? I'm like I need help little. So life card obviously came out, did his job, did his job, saved a life that day. But then, uh, I get back on the beach and and I think my mom knew I was full of shit, she's like she's up by an event, but uh, I think she really knew when the first question I asked was am I gonna be on tv, am I? And they're like no kid, that's uh, that's not how this works, that's not how this.

Speaker 2: 33:03

I'm like, all right, I'm fine I'm good, but get off me right. Never mind, you're like the camera crew. I they were. They were not visible for this, but I'm sure they had it on their. Uh, the b-roll I'm sure there's b somewhere it might make a TV show later on in life. It might Never know.

Speaker 1: 33:21

I mean, I probably looked so ridiculous. There was probably some person filming me like this fucking kid.

Speaker 2: 33:25

If you were to start a TV show, if you were to be on other than this obviously a TV show or start a TV show, what would it be about? That's a good question.

Speaker 1: 33:42

I don't know, I I really love, uh, I really love all those, all those shows of just like, uh, it's just following around people who just have absurd lies like uh, and that's not what I would have, but I'd probably find someone you know. Yeah, you're like like I loved watching. Keep keeping up with the osbournes oh my gosh oh man, oh dude, that one. Shout out to Ozzy, shout out to Ozzy. How's that guy still alive?

Speaker 2: 33:58

Dude, let's just take a second, yo, yo, if Ozzy Osbourne is still out there doing his thing, yeah, riding four wheelers, dude, riding four wheelers. Let me tell you something, there's no reason why you out there, can't, can't be doing your thing. I know like, right, like, but you know what really, though, like gosh, that shows you, I was with. I was with a friend the other night and, uh, she showed me some ozzy music that I've never heard before from from back in the day, because obviously his discography is just is nuts and dude, his songwriting ability is just top tier and man, I, I, dude, I put that on repeat and just took notes of, of of how to write a track and just like the emotion that went through it. And, man, you know, gosh, I'm so grateful for I mean as absurd as like that show is you know, and like his life, you know uh, took my, went to my room and took my beer for my room.

Speaker 1: 35:10

Yeah, yeah, like. And then she goes. Ozzy, who's the beer thief? Who's the beer thief? Who's the?

Speaker 2: 35:16

beer, thief, ozzy, you, you're the beer thief. Dude, and it shows you the cohesion and the balance that it takes for a musician and also a let's see here life, Just living life itself. Oh yeah, man, the balance.

Speaker 1: 35:37

Life's crazy man. Life is short. I remember a little quick story. One time I knew life was fragile because I was driving my car around. I hit a guy so hard in my car one time I smacked the guy so hard. Dude, is he okay? I don't think I'm okay. Oh, I think he's all right. He's all right.

Speaker 1: 36:00

I didn't I, I, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't kill the guy, but uh, okay good oh, man, I remember, I remember back in, uh, back in high school I uh we were on, we used to go on these little heinous, heinous, little little rides doing our little thing. You know, you're driving around, you know, had a little called an l ride back then. Oh, I don't know, I don't know what, I don't know what. I don't know what an l was for. I guess it was the shape of an l, but yeah, yeah oh man, every one time.

Speaker 1: 36:24

and then and then, and then we finished it up. So we finished up the whole ride and you know, I get back to my parents 20 like 2008, like old shit, like suburban, big, big suburban breaks, awful breaks, just, I can see that that's your. There's rust just crawling over the car. So, you know, I, I get in the car, my, uh, my buddy's following me, we're leaving, we're leaving our neighborhood, and uh, and I'm, and I'm getting ready to turn right onto this main road. You know, when you're turning right, you're looking left because you're worried about the traffic coming from the left.

Speaker 1: 37:03

But I'm not worried about the traffic coming from the right side because I'm turning left, so I'm not going to have to cross those cars. So I'm just looking left and looking left. Cars are coming. Cars are going fast, they're going like 50 miles an hour. They're flying.

Speaker 2: 37:18

I see a little gap. I'm like, all right, I can make that.

Speaker 1: 37:20

I got this. I gap comes, I floor it. Now that car is an old car, the acceleration on that thing is not that good, but I full.

Speaker 1: 37:27

I put that, I floor that thing, man and, uh, and, and and. I remember uh, the, the. I was my ex at the Okay and she screamed louder than I've ever heard her scream. She said, oh my God, I look up and there's this guy riding his bike from the right side and he's coming on our side of the road, a cyclist. A cyclist, he's just riding his bike in front of my car. He's going to cross my car. I look up and I slam on my awful brakes that take 30 seconds to a complete stop and I bump. I hit this guy way out oh my, oh man I I, I shot the guy across the road.

Speaker 1: 38:11

Oh my goodness almost into the ditch, oh goodness. And and I'm sitting there just in a in la la land yeah, because I just ptsd, oh my gosh. And so I, and so I turn my car. I remember I turned my car.

Speaker 2: 38:23

I don't know why I turned the car right away, but you're like, I don't trust myself in this thing for any much more time.

Speaker 1: 38:28

I didn't want anyone else getting hurt. Yeah, so I turn my car off and I, uh, I get out. I'm like, I'm like what? I'm so sorry I didn didn't see you. I didn't see you. Did he get up? I was expecting this guy to sit there and say don't touch me until the ambulance gets here. Yeah, I was ready, I was, my wall was already coming out, right, he, uh, he just kind of stands up, you know, and uh, and I hit him hard, man, I didn't, I didn't love tap, I bourbon hit, oh my god and I. So I get up and he, and he stands up off his bike and he just kind of he just says like, don't touch me, I'm fine, just kind of limp. And he started riding his bike. He starts limping off on his bike, just like pedaling. It looks like walking away and, and I'm just standing there, cars are piled up both sides of the road. I'm just standing there with my suburban in the middle of the road, just like like what.

Speaker 1: 39:16

What.

Speaker 2: 39:16

Just have it.

Speaker 1: 39:18

I my life, I couldn't believe it. And then and then I remember like I was going to like see if he's all right, and and then my exit time was like fuck this, get the hell out of here, let's get the hell out of here, and I, I got out.

Speaker 2: 39:33

What do you have coming up in the future? Or, actually, where do you see yourself in 10 years, wyatt? Where do I see myself?

Speaker 1: 39:42

in 10 years. Yeah, how old am I?

Speaker 2: 39:46

24? No no.

Speaker 1: 39:51

I'm 25. 25. Oh fresh, 26 is rotation of life, oh shit. So where do I see myself in 35? I don't know man. Music is my passion. Oh fresh, 26th rotation of life, oh shit. What was it Something? 35, I don't know man. You know I, music is my passion. I love music.

Speaker 1: 40:02

More than anything I can tell, you know, and I I'm glad I'm doing it now. You know, I'm glad you know I started Back when I was like 16 and I, I had the opportunity To start young and I'm just gonna, I'm gonna keep pursuing that as long as I can and, uh, you know, hopefully in 10 years, hopefully I'll be able to be on the road and just, you know, making, supporting, you know, a family if I have one by then and, of course, just like kind of making enough, making enough to be happy and be happy doing it you know, um, obviously I would like to have money.

Speaker 1: 40:34

oh, of course I went to school to study business. Obviously I have a couple of polo shirts, okay. I have a couple of polo shirts Pop the collar, so you know medical sales is always an option oh shoot, all right, if we got any connects out there. Uh-huh you know, no, no no, that's high dollar. That's pretty good. You know, I think I could sell. I could sell, dude, you're a salesman.

Speaker 2: 40:57

No, no, it's a good thing. Yeah, oh, just don't call me. You got the gift of gas.

Speaker 1: 41:01

Just don't call me used car salesman, no no, not at all so we're going to talk about nicknames. Got Destroyer and used car salesman.

Speaker 2: 41:08

Yeah, no, you hear that Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Yes, who is this? Oh, this is Wyatt from back in the day, is it? Oh, where are you right now? Oh, you're at the zoo. Okay, let me talk to him. The zoo, I love the zoo. What animal are you right now? Oh, you're at the zoo. Okay, let me talk to him. The zoo, I love the zoo. What animal are you? What animal? What animal? Wait a second. What? What dude? You're at the gorilla. I'm at the gorilla, dude. You're interacting with the gorilla yes you are.

Speaker 2: 41:51

You're do you know what here? I got somebody here who really needs to talk that's like the animal I most associate myself with.

Speaker 1: 41:57

Let me talk to him. Let me talk to him. Talk to him. Hello, wyatt. Oh my god, wyatt. How are you what? What? You do not? This guy's angry. This guy's pissed off right now. What is going on? Man, I did, in fact, I did, take that from the house. Yes, I did take that. This guy's trying to say that I stole the semen samples, the semen Checks out, it checks out.

Speaker 2: 42:29

I mean Is this why? Is this why?

Speaker 1: 42:34

so do you have a child with him? You do not. That is not my fault, man, you are. You were there. You were there 10 years ago. All right, this is, this is your problem. Just go to.

Speaker 2: 42:43

Just go to some bank you know know, just go to some bank.

Speaker 1: 42:46

That's all you need. We're what we're with an f. No dude, I refuse to be fertile. I refuse to be infertile. This guy's. This guy's talking full of shit he's full of shit dude, is it because we hit the guy in the car? It is, it's because we hit the guy in the car. Yeah, all right, all right, go fuck yourself, tell him. You, tell him you love him I can't dude.

Speaker 2: 43:09

Okay, it is, it's because we hit the guy in the car. Yeah, all right, all right, go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1: 43:11

Tell him you love him. I can't dude, I can't this guy's giving me shit.

Speaker 2: 43:13

Give me this thing. I love you and listen. You end up being a freaking, amazing human being and you have a lot of charisma and energy and you bring so much to the world. Lies you, you really? Uh, you should be very appreciative for the young man that you become. Okay, yes, let's okay. Get back to what you're doing.

Speaker 2: 43:39

Listen, I'm a father all right, all right that guy's not a father figure okay, next segment here all right oh oh, we got the cards out. I got the cards out. Okay, are you ready? We're gonna put 20 seconds on the clock here, okay all right so these are rapid fire, okay, so you got to answer these as as quick as possible off the dome all, all right, all right.

Speaker 2: 44:07

All right, okay, go for it. I'm ready. All right, here we go. What's your biggest fear? Awkward silence. Would you rather spend the night in a museum or a zoo? Zoos. I love gorillas. Yes, duh, I'm already there. Yeah, you're there. You have $1 million. What's the first thing you're buying?

Speaker 1: 44:26

Penis enlargement pump.

Speaker 2: 44:27

Oh, don't you already have one.

Speaker 1: 44:29

I mean, you could never have enough pumps dude, You're wearing one now.

Speaker 2: 44:34

All right. If you could turn the ocean into a different liquid, what would it be?

Speaker 1: 44:39

Fucking the mix between cocoa pebbles and fruity pebbles, Yo oh, the fish would thrive. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 44:46

If it were raining anything other than water, what could it be?

Speaker 1: 44:52

If it was raining anything other than water, wouldn't it be chocolate milk, chocolate milk, because when the ocean evaporates up into the clouds, it's going to have to come back down to chocolate milk All one cycle.

Speaker 2: 45:08

Man, there you go, dude, okay, have you ever pictured your future self? What do you? What do you actually look like? What do I look like?

Speaker 1: 45:16

yeah, oh, dude, I'm a hunk, oh man, I'm.

Speaker 2: 45:20

I'm a hunk moving junk there you go, johnny, bravo, better watch out my boy, I'm gonna be full head of hair, full head.

Speaker 1: 45:28

More than this, more than this. I know you see a lot of hair right now, but there's going to be much more in 10 years.

Speaker 2: 45:32

That's one of your best features, just so you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just at the zoo all day. What about you got facial hair? Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:39

Of course, oh my God, storing some, some cocoa pebbles in there from for later on, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2: 45:47

yeah, part of the diet, baby. All right, are you for or against pickles?

Speaker 1: 45:52

oh, I hate pickles oh right, god. Oh, I had a buddy. I went to the bar last night but he was like, hey, can I buy you a shot? I was like, yeah, man I was like anything you want, anything you want I like. Brought me back a pickle shot, dude.

Speaker 2: 46:08

Dude, I was in the same boat last night. Same thing, you know. Request a drink and pickle shots.

Speaker 1: 46:15

I'm like what. I'm like, what do you, what do I look? Like to you, Hop off hop off the, the, the listen hop off the pickle boat. Yeah, what the fuck. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 46:23

All right. Which emotion do you experience the most during the day?

Speaker 1: 46:32

Tummy aches.

Speaker 2: 46:33

Tummy aches, there we go.

Speaker 1: 46:34

Butterflies in your stomach, a lot of tummy aches.

Speaker 2: 46:36

All right, tell us your ideal packed lunch.

Speaker 1: 46:40

My ideal packed lunch Yep Mac and cheese, a little bit of boogies. I knew Some graham crackies and some mixed cereal yo, you're too old for that wait. I want to ask you one. Let me ask you one good thinking. How about this one? Would you change your name if you could? If so, what would you change your name to?

Speaker 2: 47:05

I would change my name to Chance. Really, yeah, would you take one on me? I do, of course, many chance. Yeah, I, I can see you as a chance where you go.

Speaker 1: 47:15

I can see as a chance how does what's your? Oh, this is a good one. What's your favorite movie line?

Speaker 2: 47:20

oh, um, uh, uh through the park into the gymnasium, old school, I don't even old school baby.

Speaker 1: 47:31

I, I was certain I was gonna know it, and and I don't yeah, all right. How about this name? A personal possession that you would never sell, no matter how much money you were?

Speaker 2: 47:40

offered. Oh, okay, so it's a great one. I have a big tub that has 300 notebooks in them that are all lyrics that I've written throughout my whole life. Oh, yeah, yeah. And if there was a fire or a flood or something like that no disrespect to the family pictures, I mean, we have those on our phones now, but I, but I would I would definitely take that tub.

Speaker 1: 48:09

Man, screw all the screw all the baby dude, all the baby stuff. I was a baby, I was there, you know, I remember switch it off.

Speaker 2: 48:17

Come on, let's do a few more. I got you, let's do a few more. Okay, you find a magic lamp. What's your first wish?

Speaker 1: 48:25

uh, to have three arms. You know what I mean. Except, if you were to have three arms, where would you put?

Speaker 2: 48:33

the third arm. You're right On my back Really.

Speaker 1: 48:37

Oh, that's not bad. Then you can almost be like then, like anytime that you want to, just like sit down, just kind of like, you know, let your arm kind of hold you up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 48:45

Yeah, yeah, but I guess I would need another eye back there too to see what I'm picking up. All right, which animal secretly freaks you out? Sea urchins Ooh, what the hell, man Right, they're on too much cookie pebbles. They're literally just spikes. Yeah, they're drinking way too much cookie pebbles. Oh, this is a good one for you. What's your favorite smell? My favorite?

Speaker 1: 49:13

smell other than my farts? Oh, because I smell a lot, man, I smell a lot. Your farts smell pretty, pretty, pretty good, right, honestly, that's funny I love my own fart.

Speaker 1: 49:19

Yeah, you could do this wafting man, wafting, I, I fart, and then I kind of like do a little circle in the room, just so I can really get kind of get it in the air right, and then I just kind of sit there little circle in the room, just so I can really kind of get it all together, get it in the air right, and then I just kind of sit there and meditate, meditate in it.

Speaker 2: 49:31

Oh my gosh dude, I could see it's pretty great man. I could see that. All right. What is your favorite form of potatoes?

Speaker 1: 49:39

I hate sweet potatoes. I don't know why Anyone likes sweet potatoes the Waffle House potatoes, the ones that are all mashed up. Just put a bunch of ketchup and syrup on them. It's like the body of the elf.

Speaker 2: 49:51

Alright, one more question Coconut or pineapple?

Speaker 1: 49:56

I don't get the pineapple on pizza. Hate man, it's ridiculous, it's childish. People need to grow up. Grow up, alvin. Grow up, jesus, you know what I mean the same people that don't like pineapple and pizza, the same people that are eating booty, eating booty, eating booty or not eating. We're not, we're not eating arguably worse than eating booty I love pineapples.

Speaker 2: 50:21

Okay, okay, dude. Well, listen, man. Hey, I really thank you for being here. We've been, I've been looking forward to this one for a while now.

Speaker 1: 50:27

Yeah, it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 2: 50:28

And I really do love you as a person and since the moment I met you, it really has been an awesome connection and our musical sides are both shining in different lights here. And, dude, I really do wish you the best success and I'm here for you, dude. Okay, I'm going to help you. We're going to help each other, you know, through this road. Are we about to kiss? Right now? We?

Speaker 1: 50:59

Do you know why? I would not be, would not be proud of myself, we'll do that off camera.

Speaker 2: 51:03

I know what you did Off camera, off camera, all right. I don't know, there's too many cameras, man, I think they're really cautious, no matter where we're at. Yeah, so do you have. I want you to give everyone just a last bit of maybe like inspiration or motivation to leave the crowd with.

Speaker 1: 51:21

You know just one thing I've been really. You know this is a very. This is kind of a dumb thing. Bring it, bring it, just be chill. You know, this is this is a very this is a it's kind of a dumb uh thing.

Speaker 1: 51:29

Bring it bring it just be chill, you know, just calm down. Everyone just needs to calm down. Relax like everyone, everyone's all. You know, two up on their phones and the news and just like being, you know, feeding their ego and just just and just talking like you know, just just be chill you know, and like and just know that, like every, every problem you have, every, every you know thing you run into in your life, it's all.

Speaker 1: 51:54

It could all be solved from communication and if you just have a calm, chill talk, you know, yeah, nothing, nothing is, is, is unobtainable you know, man dude, great words of advice, I think.

Speaker 2: 52:08

Uh, I'm gonna try and live by that for the next few days, just kind of, you know, chill, relax and everything doesn't have to be perfect stop stop breaking bongs.

Speaker 1: 52:16

You know, yes, great, stop breaking bongs. Know your size. Stop breaking bongs.

Speaker 2: 52:20

Stop breaking bongs and keep picking bugs. Keep picking. All right, shout out to our book pickers out there. Love y'all. Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Respecting Perspectives. Catch y'all on the flip side Peace.