Andrew: 0:00

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Matthew: 0:37

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Andrew: 0:38

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Matthew: 1:07

Try these on real quick.

Andrew: 1:08

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Matthew: 1:28

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Andrew: 1:32

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Matthew: 2:04

You got to get in the mic, bro.

Andrew: 2:07

Yeah, talk to the people.

Matthew: 2:11

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Andrew: 2:17

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Matthew: 3:07

It's like 3D the carpet, it's got grooves in it and stuff. It's not just flat.

Andrew: 3:15

Yeah, for sure, you being the groove master, you see the grooves I can't help but notice, dude, you're groovy. This man is groovy, dude. Tell us Thank you for being here first off, dude, thanks for having me, and this man has been an integral part of this whole process and I want you to just tell people a little about yourself first off, and, you know, let the audience know where you're from and just give them a little bit of meat and potatoes, you know.

Matthew: 3:48

Okay, sure, yeah, my name's Matthew Groobie, from Baltimore, maryland, and born and raised, been here for a long time, traveled all around the country. I've never been out of the country yet, but I can't wait to experience that perspective and those perspectives one day. You know, but yeah, baltimore, born and raised perspectives one day. You know. But yeah, baltimore, born and raised and just, I don't know man, I do videography. Obviously, here for you, this is our podcast we work on together, you know. So, yeah, but I do many things. You know jack of all trades, as they say, master of none.

Andrew: 4:21

Yes, yes, I'm feeling that. I'm feeling that energy. It's just like beaming. It's beaming off you yeah it's just really like gosh dude. Give me a little bit some of your inspirations, give me some some things that have fueled you throughout your artistic career and life itself sure, yeah, well, uh, first of all, like uh, I have incredible parents.

Matthew: 4:48

I have to give it up for them. They were my first inspirations and my, my little sister, uh, the family you know uh was was incredible and very grateful for that upbringing that I had. Obviously that you know, um, you know families have their own dynamics and there's always things that go on and so, um, but I'm just very grateful for the kindness and, um, you know families have their own dynamics and there's always things that go on and so, but I'm just very grateful for the kindness and, you know, generosity and kind of things that they've had with me and it's really just the kindness, you know, that I felt with them and so I learned a lot from them, basically everything from them. They would always have music playing in the house. My mom, you know, she teaches jazzercise, aerobics to music and stuff. She's fit, she's a Taurus like me, so she has her garden in the back. She's incredible. I learned music and dancing from her. But my dad loved music too. He's a professional tennis player, so sports were always big. Every Sunday they're cooking up breakfast and there's all different kinds of music playing and it was just a really good vibe in the house and I learned to appreciate the arts in that way.

Matthew: 5:53

My mom had paintings everywhere and we would eventually watch films. My dad would even let me watch some scary films. I know you mentioned you didn't like scary films. I watched the Shining when I was super young. I had you mentioned you didn't like scary films. I watched, like the Shining when I was, you know, super young. I had the blanket over my eyes like, oh my God you know I can see it now.

Matthew: 6:09

Yeah, but I had, but, like you know, seeing, you know Jack Nicholson and and you know just all these incredible actresses, actors that I loved. Film, I loved stories. So not just scary, but just everything. I was a kid, I watched everything.

Andrew: 6:25

Is scary, your favorite though.

Matthew: 6:27

No, I wouldn't say that. What would you?

Andrew: 6:28

say, your favorite genre is.

Matthew: 6:30

Probably like psychological thrillers. I don't know, there's something about them, that there's an aspect to them all, but they make you think and stuff, and I always appreciate that too, and it keeps you on your toes. You never appreciate that too, and it keep you on your toes.

Andrew: 6:44

You never figure out what's going on quite yet for sure it's interesting. Has you on the edge of your your edge of your seat exactly.

Matthew: 6:49

It's hard when people are always asking like who is that? What's going on in the movie? You know those are the worst for that for that, but right, but yeah, they're fun, you know for sure.

Andrew: 6:57

What about some bands or musicians that inspired you as a drummer?

Matthew: 7:06

Wow, yeah, um, I guess I grew up listening to like Motown with my dad and like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles and like, you know, three Dog Night and like rock and roll, like that and and Temptations and all different kinds of stuff, like with Gloria Estefan and like the just the different, you know, tango beats and and just all kinds of different stuff. You know, I didn't realize I liked jazz, you know. But I liked jazz, you know, I knew something about it. So I listened to more modern jazz now than anything but John Coltrane and things like that you know grew up listening to and so yeah, I see where your grooviness comes from.

Andrew: 7:43

Dude, it's like it. It extends down deep.

Matthew: 7:46

Yeah, and there's rock influence though too. Like I love to rock, I love rock and roll. You know, like Bonham was one of my favorite drummers, but I love the Beatles and the Ringo. You know he's a classic kind of guy, you know. Classic, yeah, you know, I just love it all man. I, yeah, you know, I just I love it all man. I just couldn't get enough of music in general and so I listen to everything and I'll try anything twice, you know so.

Andrew: 8:09

For sure, let me ask you how long did you know that you wanted to be a drummer, or did you start with a different instrument and then segue into that?

Matthew: 8:19

So I was always just singing songs and rapping and writing poetry and stuff growing up. And then my dad and I decided to take guitar lessons when I was like 12. But there was a drum set in the house. My dad played drums when he was a kid but it wasn't fully put together. There was no pedal or there wasn't something. There was always something missing. You couldn't really play the whole kit, Gotcha.

Andrew: 8:42

Gotcha, you didn't improvise right.

Matthew: 8:46

Well, I never really then touched it. I was like I don't know really what to do, but like it was there and I just always had. But I was always tapping on the seeds and just, you know, beating on everything, whatever. So, um, but guitar was the first one that I like learned as an instrument besides the voice. I think the voice, but you know the drums, people forget that one. It is like you know it's, it's the sound waves and the beating on the drums, just tapping on stuff. So drums, everybody's a drummer. They just haven't played on the kit yet, you know.

Andrew: 9:09

I love that, dude. That is such a great way to put that. Let's see here, is there anything? Let's dig a little bit into the videography side of things, the videography side of things, and you know your role in the podcast itself and you know what other places you see yourself going, uh, in the videography world sector yeah, I mean I only I got into videography really because of skateboarding. I remember that when you you were with fuck you mean, you fuck.

Matthew: 9:48

You mean was the iteration that it kind of turned into. That was Dante Benjamin's company.

Andrew: 9:53

Yep.

Matthew: 9:54

He's out in LA right now. He's skating, he's doing his thing, him and his daughter Grace. They're doing great, excellent, shout out. So yeah, I met Dante. He was, um, shout out. So, yeah, um, I met dante. He was really who got me into wanting to film, because he was like 14, I was like 17. I just moved into the county. Finally, I grew up in the city, okay, in baltimore city, and so I would skate around and stuff and it'd be super fun, but it wasn't like the safest places to skate. It was always kind of tough. You know what I mean just going downtown, um. But so, moving to the county, I'd skate around. I met dante and he was so good I was like I want to like, and that's when I started seeing a skate video. I saw a skate film. I've been watching films my whole life. I love film, I love the story, I love you know everything, just love stories you know in general.

Matthew: 10:39

So you know um the when I saw a storyline in a skate video and I probably like it was everything came together I was like I gotta do this. Uh, I did ask my folks for like a camera. They got me this cheap little camera.

Matthew: 10:51

It was everything it started my folks again getting me going like, giving me the spark to try the things. They always let me try the thing and see if it worked out. So super grateful for that and I started filming him. I started filming, I made a video by the end of high school. I showed it to my high school friends and they're like dude, you got to do something about this.

Andrew: 11:09

Yeah, right.

Matthew: 11:10

So I was like oh okay, so I went to a tech school, sheffield Institute, for the Recording.

Andrew: 11:15

Arts Sheffield.

Matthew: 11:17

I went there for their year program. I started doing different videos there, learning about that different videos there learning about that? Yeah, I started. You know that's where we shot my first music video for All Time Low. It was their first music video. They're a rock band from Baltimore, so they've gone on to be huge and that was really a fun time. I went to high school with Zach and we used to skate and that's kind of how it started.

Matthew: 11:40

My dad worked with Ryan's dad the drummer and they were like, hey, hey, the kids need to make a video, you know we were all kids. You know, we were all just young kids, so we made that music video and look at them. You know four million views on youtube and stuff the guys have blown up and um, that was just super fun. I learned a lot from there and you know, after that I worked for hbo on the wire, um for the fifth season, and so I learned a lot there shout out the wire baltimore city it was incredible.

Matthew: 12:02

I worked under Alex Appelfeld and so I still keep in touch with a lot of those guys from that time and they taught me so much. I mean, I learned a lot. I was a young kid but I was kind of arrogant. I was like I want to move on and make my own projects. I don't want to work for the man anymore. This was cool. I saw the system, I saw how big it can get, but I saw like, oh, I would have gotten the shot like this or I would have gotten the shot like that.

Andrew: 12:26

Right. Right, you're that outside view too kind of looking in like how can I do things a little bit differently, right?

Matthew: 12:32

Yeah, I always kind of would see that and wonder, even with the drums and music, would I have played the same thing there to that guitar riff? Or I wonder if he could have done that or they could have done that there to that guitar riff. Or I wonder if he could have done that or they could have done that there. You know so, but that's just me, like you know, seeing my, my own perspective in that way, but also always taking into account how it's all done, all these different perspectives that it takes to create something of that magnitude, and that was really neat to see.

Matthew: 12:58

Uh and inspired me to keep going on and making more skate films and putting them out and selling the senator theater out a few times and I remember, I remember some of those.

Andrew: 13:07

the senator is a huge, uh, historical theater in baltimore and to kind of have these guys all up on stage and you know just just some, some skateboarders who who had a, a vision and and and lived it out, is it's really, it's special, it was surreal.

Matthew: 13:26

It was a surreal experience you know what I mean Like 800 people coming out to see a video about skateboarding, and it happened multiple times. We did it over the years, you know a few times, and so that was a really special crew of people and it taught me a lot, just falling over and over again and getting back up.

Andrew: 13:42

You know the kind of lessons that skateboarding taught me dig into that a little bit like you know the, the gosh, the perseverance that you have to have, you know to be like a it's tough to fall, it's tough man, it hurts, right, it hurts you're going for a trick, you're jumping down steps, but like when you see your buddies do something, it gets you stoked, like you know.

Matthew: 14:03

Or when you do something, it gets you stoked, like you know. Or when you land something, finally, it just feels like you've accomplished this thing. It's like that, you know, and it's artistic in a way, Wait a second.

Matthew: 14:12

That's a great way to the tricks are you know, because skateboarding was always like a sport, because it was athletic in a way, but it never felt like a sport because it wasn't really a competition. Even though there are competitions now, it's all like judgment competitions and it's all a perspective, right? And so whoever the judges are and their perspective are, they're going to give this many points for this trick, right, but there's no rules for that, like basketball or whatever behind this line you get this many points and you know it's not like that you're not competing with each other.

Andrew: 14:41

You're kind of you're hyping.

Matthew: 14:42

You're competing with yourself, if anything, but you realize that there is no such thing as competition because that's a that's a awesome thought you know, you're just doing, you're just experiencing, you're just living life and and so people might be trying to compete with you, but if you really just realize that there's no such thing as competition, you're really just experiencing and doing your best and trying to create and make things happen, and there's just going to be obstacles along your way, like there always is.

Matthew: 15:11

So, um, and that's what you can call competition, if you want, but with skateboarding there would be obstacles and you would try to like hit them and use them and, you know, like have some fun with it, and be artistic with, bring them into the experience it was super neat.

Matthew: 15:23

I mean, then that was what drew me in and there was like a story behind it and everybody's style that they had when they did their trick a little different it was a little different and it was like oh, I like the way that guy kickflips. It's the same trick as a kickflip over here, but they just make it look so good, you know yeah, and so there was something about that. You had certain guys you wanted to, guys you wanted to watch or people you wanted to watch.

Andrew: 15:45

Yeah.

Matthew: 15:47

And I was just always trying to find my style. I think that's always been the thing is growing into my style.

Andrew: 15:53

I feel like that's something that you are forever going to be doing right is developing your own style and taking in what other people are doing with their style else, and not, like you know, taking it, but honoring it, almost, you know, respecting it. Respecting it, man, dude, that's, uh, that's some deep stuff, dude. Hey dig, I want you to tell us a little bit about the Watermelon Room, where we're at here, and maybe what's going on here and what you see like the future of these podcasts and possibly other podcasts. Sure, tell me a little bit about that and the background into what's going on here.

Matthew: 17:05

Sure, yeah, this is a really cool space. Garrett Long runs the Watermelon Room. It's a recording studio here and we rent the space and it's just a beautiful stage performance room space and with his recording space upstairs, I have my control room in the back and while Chase is doing the video switching for me while I, I'm out here, right, normally.

Andrew: 17:28

I'm doing. Shout out to Chase. Thank you, chase. Great job today, so that's crushing it everyone and Jay, our helper.

Matthew: 17:35

So we've done you know it's been amazing, like it's usually just you and me setting it up, doing the shoot, and so the team is growing, obviously, obviously, and that's a beautiful thing, so, but it's a great place and and we do live music shows here, uh, recording albums here, um, live albums. We also have my podcast I just started, which is a live music podcast, um, and so it's open for business. We're now, you know it's, we finally got the cameras in and we're fully streaming and everything. So it's great. We're excited for future endeavors.

Andrew: 18:09

Let me ask you this If people want to do a podcast themselves or they want to use the studio here, how can they?

Matthew: 18:21

Yeah, they can contact me. I'm online. Tell them what is it Okay. So Instagram, I guess, is groovy, underscore groovy, okay, um, yeah, we do, how can they?

Andrew: 18:24

yeah, they can contact me, I'm on on one on, I'm online. You can tell them what is it okay?

Matthew: 18:26

so instagram, I guess, is groovy, underscore, groovy, okay, spell it, spell it. I don't know how to spell it, man, I don't know if you you know what I mean.

Matthew: 18:34

The watermelon watermelon room you can find the watermelon room. I'm in groovy groovy stream studios as well. That one, I think it's spelled straightforward g-r-o-O-V-Y Stream Studios Gotcha yeah, you can find us. We're in Baltimore. So, yeah, we're doing all kinds of stuff. I want to get into the video game podcasting. We have the space for that as well. So if you play video games and you've always wanted to stream, we can do it here.

Andrew: 18:57

Nice, nice. So, hey, I think we'll end with just a final thought on. I let you hear a track a little bit earlier today and I know that you have risked a lot to follow your passion and to put yourself in a position of knowledge and just really being adaptable to situations, and the song was called All or Nothing, because you know, when it comes down to stuff like this and the thought and energy that goes behind it, you know it really is all or nothing. Can. Can you give me a little bit? Uh, just how the track made you feel.

Matthew: 19:51

Oh, I love the track. I love the track. It's definitely probably my favorite song of yours out there right now. Um, the vibe is great. Uh, the message is great and your message is great and your flow is amazing. I mean, it's just a great song and it definitely made me think about the decision, the moment to go in all or nothing. I mean, at that point it was teetering on the decisions. You can only know so much when you're pondering something. You know, I think. I do think that that is it's good to do. It's good to take time to, you know, ruminate on some things sometimes, but at some point it's too much.

Andrew: 20:30

Yeah.

Matthew: 20:31

And you got to just go for it and it's either all or nothing. I mean it's. You can't half-ass this stuff, you can't half-ass anything. And you, you know, how are you gonna know otherwise, right, how are you gonna know? You're gonna be wondering could it have been if I did a little more, if I tried a little harder, if I did the thing, said the thing took the step, and so I'm, I'm living by my gut now in that way, you know and and trying, and there's going to be a lot of mistakes made along the way, but I feel like that's, I made like 50 today, exactly you know.

Andrew: 21:01

Yeah, it's what it goes.

Matthew: 21:02

You accept me for who I am. I've had a hard time with that myself and just uh, not with you like accepting your mistakes, but my own hard times you know my moon is in in the sixth house and libra, so there's a lot. No, y'all wouldn't understand wait a second.

Andrew: 21:18

What was that? What were you just speaking there?

Matthew: 21:21

Yeah, sorry, no, I was speaking another language. Yeah, astrology language, my bad. So tell me a little bit more about the world of astrology and what's happening in the sky right now. Well, yeah, so that's. You know, there's a lot going on, um for me to get into, like, exactly what's happening right now and it's always developing, basically these planets are moving right, like, just like life.

Matthew: 21:49

Everything's always moving. So, um, even in the astrology chart that we read, it's alive, it's not. It is a picture of where the planets were the moment you were born. Typically that's the natal chart that we read, but then there's the progressed chart. You know where the planets are now, how that plays over top of these patterns that you were born into. Evolutionary astrology is the kind of astrology that I study. So you know, in evolutionary astrology it's a little different from Vedic or from sidereal or all the different. There's a few different ways of looking at the chart.

Andrew: 22:27

I have a question for you. Yeah, please, if I, as a beginner, want to start to learn about astrology, where's a good place to start?

Matthew: 22:42

there's so much information, like the internet right now is like an overflow of information, right. So again, it's just you know, be aware of that, just know that it's there's. You know, like you were saying this is true for me earlier like that there's a part of that, that there's a duality in life. We learn about that through the.

Matthew: 23:05

Gemini and Sagittarius axis, about how much information there is, the duality of how two things can be right and wrong at the same time, your perspective, my perspective. We have the same perspective of something and we think one's right, one's wrong. But why is it right or wrong? And it's what? And that's part of the sagittarius of us learning and growing and all these different energetic patterns. So I would say to learn about the signs, the 12 signs, the archetypes, you know, understanding these patterns that are in the world, in the universe. You know, because although I'm a Taurus, my sun sign is in Taurus. I have planets all over the place and I'm not a Taurus Like I am. You know, we see Taurus everywhere. We see the.

Andrew: 23:54

What's your actual sign?

Matthew: 23:56

My sun sign is in Taurus.

Andrew: 23:57

Okay, gotcha.

Matthew: 23:59

But there's so much more. There's so many more aspects where Pluto is really the soul's evolutionary journey.

Andrew: 24:06

Wow.

Matthew: 24:08

And so, through evolutionary astrology and everything else, plays off that your Mars, your Venus, all these things Mars, how you action things, venus is what you love, what you find resourceful.

Andrew: 24:20

Things like that.

Matthew: 24:21

So all these energetic patterns, you see, you know an insect, find resource and find preservation right and find how to hide that's taurus.

Matthew: 24:31

Right. When you see that, you're like, oh, that reminds me of this pattern, and so we're all part of these energetic patterns. But where the planets are might bring something out more in you. Here or there, you might notice this more, you might be more prone to this because of where these patterns are, and so that's kind of goes into where you make your decision making. Why do you make these instinctive actions? Where is it stemming from? Is it stemming from this desire? And so you know it's all about self-discovery in that way, right and so, and understanding self. So that's what's helped me understand. I've always, uh, been looking at the cosmos, but I've been very much always just looking, looking up, right what was the when?

Andrew: 25:11

when can you remember the first time that you were like really amazed with the sky? Do you remember like the first time that, like you really kind of like looked up and understood like the power of, of what's up there?

Matthew: 25:26

yeah, I remember as a child just driving in the car. Uh, my folks would be having conversation on long rides home and my first memories are like falling asleep, looking up out the window, looking up at the stars as we were driving by, and like the lights from the highway going by and wanting to have those lights not on because I wanted to see more, you know, of the stars. It was so grand.

Matthew: 25:52

There was something about that that caught my eye. I didn't know how deep it actually went until the past few years. Know how deep it actually went until the past few years. I've always kind of seen astrology, seen horoscopes and things and I was like, oh, that's kind of I feel that like you know, but I was like oh, but everybody feels like that's so broad right, it's true, right because, again, I was like there's only 12 archetypes, there's these energetic patterns, but it's these combinations of everything in these, in these aspects that these planets make, that make it very personal for you.

Matthew: 26:22

And when you read the chart in that way, it's a lot different than just going. I'm a Taurus. My sun's in Taurus no, it's. Where is the moon in relation to the sun? Where was Pluto? In relation to all these things, there's aspects that are being made and it's either giving tension or it's giving release, or there's ease and it's flow. There's different ways that they can. They see each other. There's blind spots, like I can't even see the sun's in the way you know, I've always thought that my mercury must be in retrograde, because when everyone talks about mercury being retrograde, I felt normal. I was like everything else is like yeah, my pace now like wait a second.

Matthew: 26:57

Everybody else is freaking out and I'm like this feels good to me, and so when I started reading the chart, it was like, oh, your mercury. If your mercury is in retrograde in your chart, then you might feel it this way oh, that makes sense well, mercury wasn't in retrograde.

Matthew: 27:09

So I didn't understand that. The more I started studying astrology, I see, oh, the sun and mercury were conjunct. The sun was blocking it out, basically making it retrograde. So there's different, there's these little patterns. As you study it and you learn more, you'll find this self-awareness in it and I go okay, you know, the thing with self-awareness is funny, though, because the more we become aware of ourselves, the more like guilty we can feel when we're not living at that higher vibration. Right, but that's the beauty of it. It's kind of keeping us now. Oh, now we know how we like. Oh, how can we evolve? Now, we're evolving, like you. Now you're holding yourself up to this.

Matthew: 27:47

I, you know, I understand. I see when I'm slipping, I see what I'm not doing as well. I don't want to be there. I understand where my faults might be. It's easy there's a virgo trait it's easy to blame yourself or see the imperfections in yourself, or see the imperfections in the world and hone in on that. But there's a use for that, right, it's a cleansing thing, it's a how do I get better? How can we be helpful? Right, leo, everyone knows or anyone that's a Leo will know that they're very like.

Matthew: 28:17

I'm a Leo, like, see me right right like check out what I am mitch, you know mitch is a leo right right.

Andrew: 28:23

So, and I'm sure, you're gonna be talking to him someday, right, and so what the leo?

Matthew: 28:27

as you go around the chart, the leo is at the top of the pyramid. Basically, it's looking down. It's like yo, everybody check me out, I can see this thing and the very and and before that, all these other archetypes are really learning about yourself which why, when it gets to Leo, you're like, oh, look at all these traits I've learned and now I know all these things.

Matthew: 28:44

But then when you get to the next sign, virgo, it's like the transition sign that says now you're flipping the pyramid upside down, you're seeing the whole universe and you're going well, how, whoa like, and they're telling you what your faults are. Now it's like you're so great, but, yes, everybody's great and here's where the faults are, here's how we get better, and so there's this cleanse. So all these, they matter. They all matter. These archetypes are part of our lives and there's so much we can learn from all of them. You know, and so you just think you're a sun sign, whatever. There's so much more. We are all of these, and so it's all encompassing. It's very. It's a huge perspective and I learned that there's. I will always be learning more every day and you know everyone, every astrologer that I've spoken with has brought more perspective to the archetypes, a deeper understanding as I go.

Andrew: 29:30

So I can never say I know all these things like there's always something more to learn, but it's important to talk about it.

Matthew: 29:36

It's important to talk with each other about these ideas, because this is how we start sparking ideas with each other here.

Andrew: 29:43

Yeah, how long has this study itself been relevant? You know, like, how long has astrology been forever? It's just been.

Matthew: 29:54

It's just. It's as long as the the universe has been around, because it is the universe. The astrology is just. The astrology is just people that were figuring out how to measure something. It's like how we figured out time right. Time is like a certain way here on earth, right, but we know that it stretches when you get outside of earth. And what is what is?

Andrew: 30:18

it anyway.

Matthew: 30:18

Relativity there's exactly quantum fit. There's all these things that are going into it together, so I love.

Andrew: 30:25

I love in the movie uh, what interstellar? When they go to a different, you know planet and time moves differently.

Matthew: 30:33

You know, and that's, that's the theory as well, but they've kind of tested that theory in time and it's, you know, as they say, they've gone out. Now that's if you believe we've actually gone to the moon or gone to these places. I'm sure you know there's hard, it's hard for people to. I see, in this day and age it's hard to believe things.

Matthew: 30:51

There's so much information like we're talking about it I don't, even I can't say yes or no, okay, um, but I think, because of my perspective of seeing how uh media can be manipulated, uh, I create it myself, right, we create media here, right and so I've edited films.

Matthew: 31:11

I like stories, I like these films, but they're typically just edited in a way right, and so when there's a raw story happening, that's what's you know. You have to take in all these perspectives. So I understand that. Um, there may be a lot of truths to what has happened in history yeah and there it depends on who wrote it and how we got that information.

Matthew: 31:35

Yeah, so I'm still trying to gather all that information. For me me, it's almost not relevant whether or not we did or not. For my life it has nothing to do with what I'm doing, and how I'm living my life.

Andrew: 31:49

Maybe you could be the first.

Matthew: 31:51

Who knows?

Andrew: 31:51

You never.

Matthew: 31:52

I've been to space. My body was here, by the way.

Andrew: 31:56

It makes me think about the Saturn that's in the logo there.

Matthew: 32:03

Tell me more about just like Saturn itself, and Okay in the astrology, yeah, Okay, specifically, yeah, sure, saturn, wow, okay. So my understanding of Saturn is that it has to do with time itself. We were just talking about time. It is the crystallization of our reality, it is the hardening, it is the actual meat and potato I wouldn't even necessarily say the glue, but it is the structure, it is the, it is, uh, the bone. If there's the, if cancer, the archetype is the marrow, um, the uh, capricorn and the saturn. Saturn and capricorn are related sat it's, it's wait.

Andrew: 32:49

Why'd you go like that?

Matthew: 32:50

when they're related, they're um, so they're, they're, they're, they're polar opposites. Okay, but they're like two sides of the same coin and that happens six times around the wheel, so you'll have a polar opposite sign so aries and libra right, taurus and uh. Scorpio, gemini and sagittarius, cancer and capricorn we were just talking about, uh, leo and aquarius, virgo and pisces. All right, those are those combinations, right. This is that wheel that keeps, and they and they relate to each other, so what's that wheel called?

Matthew: 33:21

uh, the chart. It's the natal chart right, or the astral, the astrological wheel. You know the um gotcha yeah cool, um, but yeah, so saturn is like where we'll see, uh, you know, time form things and and are in the structure, so it'll sometimes, uh, sometimes relate to the parental figure in your life that created the structure for you, that told you the rules. They put boundaries right Hardened. They put boundaries around things.

Andrew: 33:49

Maybe they open boundaries too.

Matthew: 33:51

There could be no boundaries, right when there's aspects where maybe Saturn and Neptune are conjunct there, could you know, neptune is a planet that is like very hazy, it's all gas. And so that can put a haze on things. And so when you're talking about boundaries and then a haze, it can be no boundaries Right and so and that, and then depending on what sign.

Andrew: 34:14

And so that's why there's specific things in the James Webb Space Telescope and things like that. I'm sure the more if we get more information, can we learn more about these signs, or do we have all the information that we need in order to come up with the theses and the ideas behind these things?

Matthew: 34:43

it's a pretty good question. I don't know the um, the telescope nessus, okay, well, if it did, if the telescope were to tell us something, what would it tell us? It would find new constellations, maybe, which would then alter the charts yeah, right, that's where. That's where my head I've thought of that as well it's. I'm curious to that because there has been thoughts of a 13th sign, and 13 is a number that makes sense to me. I don't know why. There's 12 months in a year. When you think about it, there's 13 moon cycles.

Andrew: 35:21

Okay.

Matthew: 35:23

So why wouldn't the cycle of time go along with the planets when it's cycling in this way? When you think about when you divide time 28 days per month, 13 months?

Andrew: 35:37

Is there anywhere else in the world there's a roughly 365, 366.

Matthew: 35:42

And why did that come about? The Gregorian calendar? Why did King Gregory decide this new calendar was going to be the thing and that we all adopted it? Um, we all took our ways from kings, but if you remember, back then, kings took a lot of advice from astrologers oh, that's a great point. And they kicked them out when they didn't like what they had to say oh right, right, so it's. It's been going back for thousands of years, these, you know, they've found.

Andrew: 36:11

And how did we keep those records and whatnot it's been developed over time.

Matthew: 36:16

It started with hieroglyphics and there's been carvings that they found.

Matthew: 36:25

I'm blanking on the name now I'm blanking on the name now, um, but there's tons of ancient ruins from all over the world at different, different names, um that they found the same kind of markings from 10 000 years ago or a little earlier, because of roughly 10 5 was when the ice age was. So okay, um, and but so talking about six more, more like six to seven thousand years ago, before they all talked about a flood in the same carvings and the tall people that came to help them rebuild, right, and we consider that the Anunnaki and which, or maybe aliens, we don't know what that is.

Andrew: 37:04

Right.

Matthew: 37:04

So there's a lot of theories that go into that and a lot of people speak about that. I don't know as much about that, but'm knowledge knowledgeable that that's being spoken about and it kind of when you start relating everything it raises more questions.

Andrew: 37:16

Let's talk a little bit about. You were speaking about the akashic records, yeah, the other day, and I have started to do a little research and kind of understand what they are and being able to act.

Matthew: 37:36

Maybe you can teach me a little more too, you know what? Because it's incredible stuff, right, I'm sure we could teach each other some things we could Zoom call Anna, who gave me the Akashic Records reading which blew my mind.

Andrew: 37:50

Shout to Anna yeah, yeah, nice, nice. And what did you take from that? If you don't mind me asking, Well, I mean.

Matthew: 37:59

So, first of all, my understanding of the Akashic Records is only so deep but from what I know, she was accessing my spirit guides, ancestors, spirit masters, anyone that's kind of watching over me from other dimensions in that realm, that spirit realm. Whether you believe in that or not, I definitely have had experiences, personal experiences with with them that have scared the living you know, what out of me and stuff, but also been very enlightening and also has made me go was that even real?

Andrew: 38:33

yeah right.

Matthew: 38:34

So, like, I'll be honest with you, like and I haven't shared that with with too many people, but I'll be honest- well, thank you for for opening up there. Yeah, really, man uh we were talking about that the other day the rate, the reading itself, yeah, the reading and uh, yeah, tell me a little bit.

Andrew: 38:50

I mean, what is it? Was that the first time you've ever done something? I had never even heard of it.

Matthew: 38:57

This is a woman that I study astrology with and from. They don't speak much, but when they do, it's pretty profound. I've found, and um poignant, yeah, and um, they don't know much about me at all, um, but like we've have, uh, we're in this group together that we talk every so often and she doesn't know anything about my personal life in that way, um, quite yet, but I'm getting to know her now, especially after this reading.

Matthew: 39:26

It's blown my mind so yeah, basically she went into this reading. She has a process of doing that. It's a very spiritual thing. She accessed these records and was speaking things to me that were very personal. Speaking of the watermelon room. Here was the story that I'll tell everybody, because I've been telling everybody the story. I am definitely, definitely dehydrated, I don't drink enough water. I'm going to say it right now and I'm going to pull out the water. Let's drink some water together.

Andrew: 39:54

Cheers yeah, Drink more water, kids.

Matthew: 39:57

This is important especially because I'm speaking a lot. I'm feeling the parcheness. So she didn't know that about me and there's reasons actually why I am. I almost drowned when I was five in the ocean. The undertow took me out. No one could see me. I remember almost like it was the end Very vivid, Very vivid. I was five years old. I had come to terms with my death. I was like this is it. I was tired, I was trying to fight it. I had one hand out. I was in Bethany.

Matthew: 40:26

Beach right like. No one surfs in bethany beach, delaware, because the waves break on the beach, but for some reason that day there was a surfer out there and this guy saved my life he pulled me.

Andrew: 40:35

I remember just pulling me out, yeah do you know, do you remember his name?

Matthew: 40:38

no, no, I passed out at me.

Andrew: 40:39

I like I don't thank you I just remember that last moment I thought it was my last.

Matthew: 40:44

Yeah, shout out, dude. I think I thank him spiritually basically every day because I can't I go every day and I'm grateful for every next day because I thought it was gone at five. I was like I came to terms with it. I was like this is it like I had a good run? I was really lucky for the life I had, the family I had. They were easy on me for some reason. I like knew, you know, growing the city. I like saw a lot of perspectives. I saw not a lot of people, that had like five at five.

Matthew: 41:10

I knew it dude. I was super grateful and after that you know and it's you know, it is a. It is a great perspective to have. Sometimes, uh, I didn't like have true self-autonomy because of that. I've had to learn that in that way, because I've been just so like grateful for everything and just taking it all in kind of thing like you know, but not actually going and experiencing things and trying new things sometimes you need that guide.

Andrew: 41:33

You know that that's something to follow and and you know reach for. I guess you could say it's true, you?

Matthew: 41:38

know. Well, she didn't know that. You know she didn't know anything about me like that, but she's like are you dehydrated? She like got parched right away. It was great. She had a somatic experience, right. So, um, it was very somatic what does somatic mean? In your body, very feeling you can experience your body yeah, like in in your body a physical, a physical thing okay, you know.

Matthew: 41:57

And so she started feeling these ways and so she's like are you dehydrated? And one time I had to go to the hospital I had like a breakout and things and they had to give me an iv. And I always pass out when I get needles. I I cannot handle a needle right. Pass out immediately. Yeah, I passed out immediately. I woke up three hours later and they were like, bro, like we gave you more IV than we've given anyone.

Andrew: 42:19

Like you need to drink water, you used the stash, the IV stash dog. They had to hit the, they had to get the small key out.

Matthew: 42:27

I didn't know Like I knew out. I didn't know like I knew I knew but. I didn't know, but I like had caught myself holding my breath in the shower and like random things like I'm just what, I don't don't drink a lot of water, so like I, she mentions this, and the night before, were you when that happened? The the hospital visit I was probably my 20s okay yeah, yeah, so it's been. It's been my whole life.

Matthew: 42:50

I just never drank much water so the self-awareness of that is uh that's come through, like studying myself because of the astrology in the past year and a half, I've come to realize these things and that's why I was able to bring that up to more puzzle pieces?

Andrew: 43:05

yeah, exactly, um, it's helping. You got the outside.

Matthew: 43:08

You got the outside you know the universe will smack you to evolve if you don't work on it yourself. You know it's it's gonna do it anyway it's it's shaking it. So as long as I'm just paying attention to these things, yeah, I can evolve with it. But, like the, the thing that blew my mind was that we were here recording at the watermelon room, my band, um, you know the drummer in uncle conong's one grand band ah shouts out to the boys I'm also in diamond canopy oh, shout out to the boys.

Matthew: 43:34

And tennessee lamb is a is a um, it's a little feet cover band, but anyway. So yeah, I'm just playing all the time. But one grand band was playing here at the watermelon room. We were doing a live uh recording session yeah, that was.

Andrew: 43:45

you came right. You were there a few nights, I was there a few nights. We were just jamming out. It was a live recording Right on this stage.

Matthew: 43:52

I was on right here. I had you know, actually we didn't have this camera up here yet. We only had a couple of cameras and that might come out. We're not sure, it's just the audio, but anyway, we were recording here in the lot and I realized you know what I need to on friday night. We did a three-night run on friday night. Someone was like dude, where's the watermelon? At the watermelon room and I was like dude.

Andrew: 44:13

Yeah, what was I thinking?

Matthew: 44:14

of course, come on so I go saturday I buy this watermelon. I see it on the side of the road. It is cute you. You saw it was. It was a 60 pound. What it was so hard to get in my car.

Andrew: 44:24

It had like a dude.

Matthew: 44:25

It had like it came with its own like briefcase and all dude it was like you had to have, like a duffel bag, like or something like multiple people to carry that thing for sure so we bring it in. But I didn't have a knife or plates or nothing like I was so unprepared. I just had this huge watermelon so it just sat there. So someone brought it on the front of the stage and put it the front of the stage when we played offering.

Andrew: 44:48

It's an offering for the watermelon guys. We ended up ripping that recording. I mean, Saturday night was the night Y'all were smashing.

Matthew: 44:54

I'm not going to lie, that was a fun night, right. So the vibes were there, the watermelon was vibrating right, taking it in, but we never ate it and I'm still dehydrated, right, I'm, you know, um, I hadn't had this record, I hadn't had this reading yet. So then, the very next day, after that saturday night, we had one more night to record here on that sunday night we were doing three night runs, so sunday I had the reading at noon and so she has this reading early you got that reading early.

Andrew: 45:19

That way the whole day you're like you know what I'm about to.

Matthew: 45:21

I'm about to live this you know, I had a feeling something was going to be out, because I knew that she was brilliant and just had this.

Andrew: 45:27

I think you know what too? Maybe the fact that you're allowing yourself to open up to these things?

Matthew: 45:35

Sure, I've always kind of been open to it. Anyway, I'm actually learning how to put boundaries. Talking about Saturn. Put boundaries on these spirits and these things, Like not right now spirits, I've got to live here. Yeah, I've got to be back here on earth and like get something done physically, eat some food, drink some water, so that.

Andrew: 45:54

I can keep thinking Bare necessities.

Matthew: 45:55

You know, like if I don't take care of myself, I can't think about this cool astrology stuff where I can't, you know, do all this stuff. So, like, take care of my body, take care of myself, and this is what this reading was telling me to do. She's like are you dehydrated all this stuff? She goes, you know, and I eat salads. I love salads, I love vegetables.

Andrew: 46:12

It's like my favorite thing to eat, right.

Matthew: 46:14

Okay, and that gives me some water in that way. Right, good point. But that's not all. I got to have more, I got to take care of myself. So she goes, she says she doesn't know this about me, she does not know this about me, and she's like the veggies are great. They say the veggie, she's speaking, they're speaking through her yeah, are you dehydrated? It's like a three-way call, basically right right and I can't hear them, but she is just translating right the cosmos and which I kind of already knew they're trying to speak to me.

Matthew: 46:41

I just wasn't letting myself listen and take it in you know like so she's like, I'm like, it's like another, just another sign. Like, dude, here's more signs. Like, understand this? Here's the words that she said. She goes you know, the vegetables are great. You need to eat more fruits, more fruits. They say eat the watermelon matt dude, I'm telling you man I lost it's connected.

Andrew: 47:05

It's like what?

Matthew: 47:07

so you know what we did we chopped that thing up. Half of that thing was I mean half.

Andrew: 47:12

It was so big, I mean there must have been 30, 40 however many people that'll feed a small village we're talking about, like you know, like tiny town.

Matthew: 47:19

I mean, the crazy thing was we ran out of water like here, like the water in the, in the sink and stuff that's not that very good. So we had to get some water bottles for everybody. But we ran out of water bottles. So what did everybody have? They had the watermelon and everybody loved it Eat the watermelon.

Matthew: 47:34

So it's like little signs, like that from the universe that if we just are open to it, it's speaking to us and it's helping guide us. It's just a part of it, and so these stars can help understand ourselves more and just get a bigger perspective, because there's 7 billion of them on this world, right like there's 7 billion that make up the one big perspective that's really happening. And we won't really know that one big perspective until we talk to seven and that's you know.

Andrew: 48:01

So so the sky, so talk to the sky and talk to each other.

Matthew: 48:06

Man we got each other you know, let's understand each other in that way and understand ourselves.

Andrew: 48:09

Man, you know what this is a good time to talk about. When we were speaking earlier about AI, and you know where do you see AI taking like music and art in the future, like maybe five to ten years from now, and then let's even say like a hundred years from now, and even not with just music, but how you see it, kind of shaping or to be used in the future.

Matthew: 48:48

Yeah, I mean it's because, um, it's already started going in. You know electronic ways, right? We know ai is creating something um, my, my guitar player, in time, it can't be sent me a video today. Actually, speaking of this, um where, if you quantized john bottom's drums, he spoke about john bomb. I mentioned him earlier. If you quantized John Bonham's drums, you spoke about John Bonham, I mentioned him earlier. If you quantized the drums.

Andrew: 49:12

What does quantized mean again?

Matthew: 49:13

Digitized, basically Taking what the drum, the sound of the drums, and making the beats with a digital version of it on the computer Right. So which is what the sounds.

Matthew: 49:24

A replication of the sound, of the sound, but an electronic version that the computer has programmed in that built in they have these sounds yeah and so if you were to create a drum beat with these sounds, as opposed to recording microphones on a drum set with the drummer, what is the difference of the sound? And you can just feel this swing difference. You're talking about swing and groove earlier. There's something missing that you can't quite tell what it is now, maybe not missing, let's not say, let's not call it missing, because here's what I want to make the correlation. It's just different. And we talk about ai, we're talking about consciousness. That's just different.

Matthew: 50:06

Now, who's programming this consciousness and what are they learning to do? And who's making the con like, what are we using it for? Who's using it for what? Because it can do anything you want it to do, right. And so that's what we're really talking about and talking about morality of ai. And where is it going? Is it art? Is it good, bad? Depends on who you ask and where it was used for and who made it do what. It's only really learning from what we've given it Right.

Andrew: 50:41

And so it's going to what do you think we're giving it?

Matthew: 50:47

I'm not sure, I'm not there. Do you think we're giving it? I'm not sure, I'm not there. Um, from what I've seen, it's learning at such a pace that it's outgrown what we can give. It's going to learn on its own. It's going to, and you know, everyone's seen the matrix right there's. There's always a counterbalance like is that really what's going to happen? Is that it's going to flip the universe? The world is alive too. It's got its own consciousness. Humans have consciousness. Ai is going to be its own consciousness. Plants have consciousness. Animals have consciousness. The earth is conscious. The universe is conscious.

Andrew: 51:24

What makes us, I think, able to kind of have our consciousness, is that you can have that understanding that we all do have our each own. You know, I think you could call it consciousness being just where your let's see here your mind resides. You know, what do you think? What is consciousness to you? What?

Matthew: 51:49

is consciousness.

Andrew: 51:49

You know being conscious. You think what is consciousness to you? What is consciousness? You know being conscious what is god?

Matthew: 51:54

no, I'm just kidding, I don't know. You know, like, yeah, who is straight up, I mean, that's yeah, like, if you're asking my, my personal perspective on consciousness, yeah, yeah, I think, man, that's so much. You know, consciousness, I think we may be, it's one thing. I think it's one thing. I think there is one consciousness and then there's different levels of it, and so we're all experiencing ourselves with each other. We are all fragments of this consciousness experiencing it for itself. It's what Pluto in the astrology chart kind of says my desire to break away from the entirety of the ocean and be a wave. I got to form my own shit Right right.

Andrew: 52:47

Because Neptune talks about consciousness and just think that right now sorry side note please there's waves that are just like happening crashing, going back into itself, having its own thing, and then going back into this, into source how many waves are like crashing right?

Matthew: 53:02

now you know every, every river is leading back to the ocean and it's going as it's constantly flowing does water have a lot to do with, or water that's on earth, like the oceans and the seas?

Andrew: 53:15

have anything to do with astrology?

Matthew: 53:18

well, sure, like um we can represent, like there's water signs, right there's signs that you can see what, like the water, is this flow right, there's a flow to water that, um, that land doesn't have yeah per se, right, um, the flow. Air has that flow. Right, fire has some flow. But they're different kind of flows. Right, there's some's hot and some's cool. Some are like engulfing, some will burn you, you know. Some will just be flighty, right, right, and you're going to see that.

Andrew: 53:49

They affect you different? Yeah, certain signs and we interact with them.

Matthew: 53:53

Different Exactly and we just kind of labeled those energetic patterns. We go that looks like that's Libra or that's Gemini or that's Leo. We've labeled that it's a way and Gemini is a labeling function. So it's like that's what we've labeled. We've noticed this is the pattern and we're going to identify it. It kind of identifies with this. We've seen this pattern happening Right.

Andrew: 54:17

So let me ask you this Is there any intertwinement between consciousness and the sky itself?

Matthew: 54:29

Yeah, yeah, sure, because again, it's all consciousness, it's all one consciousness. So the sky, the planets, they're all conscious in their own way, but it's there, it's all part of the same consciousness, which is the universe. Slash multiverse, like yeah, we don't know how grand it really can keep going. We haven't really proven infinity yet, which is just a grand idea like infinity is so wild to me.

Andrew: 54:57

I love that can that be proved? Can infinity they're?

Matthew: 54:59

trying. They've been trying forever right yeah. But it's like you can think there's what, yeah, go, you know, when you think about it. It's like you can cut any number. In theory, you can just cut any number in half, or you could double any number.

Andrew: 55:12

It just keeps, just keep doubling just keep doubling, it just keeps going. Is aren't numbers crazy with that? That? That thought, you know, that thought experiment where.

Matthew: 55:20

But that's again a theory in numbers and numbers are really a theory that we created, and so where do you see that in reality? Oh, and that's. And so the the astrology, for me, is the bridge, the combination of those theories and the patterns and the reality. And where do we find that?

Andrew: 55:41

It's a bridge in the sky.

Matthew: 55:44

Exactly.

Andrew: 55:50

You know what dude time and really just just you know getting into some of this stuff and and getting to know you and letting other people get to know where, you know where your head's at and really just kind of having a conversation, you know thanks, man, it's been fun.

Matthew: 56:06

Yeah, no, I love talking about this stuff anyway, so yeah we could do this all day. Yeah, I mean I'm still learning again like, oh man, I don't know shit. Like yeah, you know what I mean. I'm still learning again Like oh man, I don't know shit. Like yeah, you know what I mean, I'm still learning stuff.

Andrew: 56:16

Let me, let me, uh, let me ask you one thing what does respecting perspectives mean to you? I know you touched on it a little bit earlier, but if you could give me you know, perspective means to you Absolutely.

Matthew: 56:40

Yeah, that phrase when you say that it's like it just brings into scope how much perspectives there are in the world and again coming back into why I have the one, the perspective that I have, and how much can that grow, how much can that evolve, with understanding and respecting the multitude of perspectives that are truly out there, that everything has, and it can be overwhelming at times, right, because there's a lot of perspectives but there's a lot of grounding techniques that I've been learning and things like that. Yeah, you went over a few.

Andrew: 57:19

Thank you for helping us understand some of that stuff For sure. Yeah, I'm interested in learning about it myself, and hopefully we can find that 13th.

Matthew: 57:34

Yeah, you go Me too, let's study together it you go Me too, let's study together It'll be fun, Awesome, Perfect.

Andrew: 57:41

Let's see here man speaking about perspectives. Let's show the people what type of views we have here.

Matthew: 57:53

Show them the plethora of cameras that we have. I'm sure they've seen them being switched around a bunch, but yeah, we do have a bunch of cameras. We have the main Shadow to Chase. Switching it up. We got the main camera with the big shot. You can see everything right here in the front. We have the wide shot of the two of us over here in the side.

Andrew: 58:11

See you up there, that's nice.

Matthew: 58:13

Then we come down the line. We have one that's a little closer.

Andrew: 58:16

It's probably our closeup right here.

Matthew: 58:18

If we go back to the other side we have this wide shot probably a bus too right here right, that's a wide receiver out there, that is. And and then we got the closeup again right here.

Andrew: 58:30

Oh, I hit him with a good sign.

Matthew: 58:31

And last but, not least, of course, the bird's eye view that they've probably seen a bunch is up top. Hello, it's pretty, you know.

Andrew: 58:38

There's a nest up there. That's what it is. It's like a.

Matthew: 58:41

I thought I was going to find some nests when I was climbing up there trying to install it before the podcast shoot, because I was rushing around to get that up just before Monday night.

Andrew: 58:49

Oh wait, what I mean? Come on, tell me Right. Okay, give me a little.

Matthew: 58:54

You'll be there next time you weren't able to come this time. But yeah, we had.

Andrew: 58:58

I'm excited.

Matthew: 58:58

I touched on it a little bit earlier, but yeah, rhythm Royale is what it's called. Okay, we are spinning like a roulette wheel of different musicians on these wheels, you know, we have a bunch of different.

Andrew: 59:10

That's where the royale and the roulette kind of yeah, you know it's Casino Royale, it's the Rhythm Royale.

Matthew: 59:17

So yeah, we're creating bands on the spot, we're spinning the wheels of the instruments and we'll have a bunch of different musicians guitar players, a bunch of different drummers, a bunch of different bass players.

Andrew: 59:26

How many people in total?

Matthew: 59:28

This Monday we had like 30, I think, musicians, 30? Maybe a little more. Dude that musicians you know, 30, maybe a little more, dude, that's like that's some of the greatest players from in the in the dmv. You know, delmarva area, you know, like all around, um, that's awesome that you could get all those people together. Man, it was crazy it was, I couldn't believe it. I mean I could. I mean these, uh, these are, you know, really great people that I've met over the years here You've been working hard in the scenes and drumming.

Andrew: 1:00:00

Really, just, I'm always seeing you talking to people and making connections and yeah, I can see just your bringing all these people together. Really, you, it brings joy to you to kind of just have everybody jamming out and that's, that's a beautiful thing.

Matthew: 1:00:23

It's true, I can't hide it.

Andrew: 1:00:24

Yeah, it's like the like, my favorite thing in the world, you know just just being in the middle of that and how often do you plan on on this podcast occurring?

Matthew: 1:00:33

I think we're going to start like once a month, but I've had a lot of excitement about it, so it may grow to every week, I mean, who knows or once a week. I mean we'll see.

Andrew: 1:00:44

And it's here at the Watermelon Room. It's right here at the Watermelon Room.

Matthew: 1:00:46

It's wild. We spin the wheel with the projector, everyone's watching and we are going to open it up to to the audience. But it's super fun, man. I mean, we get different people from from different bands that play different styles of music to come together. They have no idea what they're going to play, they have no idea who they're going to play with, and they come on stage and we and we we have a bunch of it's like whose line is it anyway?

Matthew: 1:01:07

I don't know if everybody remembers that oh dude, I used to love that show it's like music right, Like we're going to get the audience to throw us these different scenarios and the singers have to come up and make up a song about that scenario and the band has to come up with. Whatever the key and the genre, we're going to give that to them on the spot.

Andrew: 1:01:24

Don't tell me on a freestyle session, that's what I'm saying Right man, that's what I'm saying.

Matthew: 1:01:29

I love the have a rapper on monday dude well you will, and you both, you sing and rap so it's like I can only imagine what kind of song you'll make. Oh, I'm excited, but we give, we give each band. Uh, I think we're gonna up it to seven minutes to jam okay, they can find they gotta find the song in seven minutes, and I tell you, man, every jam was so good. I dude these. These musicians are so good and they were able to just make up songs on the spot.

Andrew: 1:01:51

How many different people did you have on the stage at like one time? It was eight people on stage per song and tell me, like break it down, what were some of the?

Matthew: 1:01:59

There was drums, percussion bass, two guitars, saxophone or harmonica.

Andrew: 1:02:08

A sexy phone. Somebody had the sexiest phone ever Keyboards and a singer. Dude, that is like a full on band with and some it plus the two guests. I mean they're in everybody's in it was super fun, just everybody, energy was wild just just everybody's like feeding off each other, you know, and then you're dishing some out. You know it's super fun.

Matthew: 1:02:32

I got to talk to all the musicians afterwards and kind of introduce everybody to each other and let each other know what bands they were in and how long they've been playing music for yeah, some of the guys were not in any current bands and it was like, oh, we got some free agents, you know like pick them up, I really would love to some from new bands to be created because of this oh, that is such an awesome point, dude.

Andrew: 1:02:51

I I hold hard, wholeheartedly believe that that's possible with something like what you're doing, and you know what I think it'll do. It'll help musicians also kind of step out of their comfort zone, sure, and you know what?

Matthew: 1:03:11

it's but you what? It also felt really comfortable. The vibe that I got was like it was such a hang that like there were such great players, and usually when you see those guys out or these people out, it's like they're at a show. It's one of their shows.

Andrew: 1:03:26

Yeah.

Matthew: 1:03:27

And it's like this wasn't a show, this was just a hang and a jam with some of the greatest cats.

Andrew: 1:03:32

So you're just with your friends now.

Matthew: 1:03:34

Now you're just hanging out with your friends and you didn't. And like like people wanted to play with a certain player, like, oh, I've never gotten to play with that cat, so it's like I might get to play with them. I really want to play with them. And then it's like oh, I didn't get to play with them.

Matthew: 1:03:45

I got to play with them, or, man, I didn't get to play with them. Oh, but maybe next week, if I come back and they spin the wheel, I might get to play. And who knows, who I'll get to play with this week, and so next month we already have a bunch of different people that are going to be, and so who knows what the bands are going to be. It's really exciting.

Andrew: 1:03:59

Oh, dude, I'm, I'm super, I'm super taken back by, you know, the energy that you've put into this, and I see it for sure, and I'm inspired by it Likewise, bro butt Likewise bro. I'm sorry about you and just because of that I got a little something. You brought this in with the mail here.

Matthew: 1:04:18

That's right. Oh yeah, oh, that is fresh.

Andrew: 1:04:24

We got the respecting perspective. Tee, is this your size? It's an extra medium. Yeah, there we go, baby boy. Well, hey, listen, thank you so much for joining me group. It was really groovy too, you were just a phenomenal person. You're really one of the most down to earth smile on your face, all the time just radiating positive energy, and I'm so glad to have you, uh, by my side through all this, and I'm excited to see where this, this, can go likewise my way.

Matthew: 1:05:07

It only, it's only because, uh, you know, I'm radiating back what's what's shining on me, so you know what I'm saying.

Andrew: 1:05:13

So we're like, like, we're just like magnets.

Matthew: 1:05:15

Exactly. It's like the sun, the moon, the earth. It's all the planets, baby, we are planets of our own Nice.

Andrew: 1:05:22

All right, hey. So thank you for joining us for episode four and what we're planning for. We got hundreds more coming, so we'll catch y'all on the on the flip side. Thanks for joining us. See you next time.